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Sucidemonkey 12-28-2008 12:16 PM

55 gallon Project!
 
So im buying this 55 gallon tank for 35$ including stand. And i was wondering. What would be Something fun to put in it? i already have a 45 gallon tank with 2 gold fish 1 needle fish 1 pleco and 1 chiclid
and i have a 75 gallon with 2 silver dollars and 1 -13 inch Tiger Oscar.


Any idea's?

Max77 12-28-2008 01:15 PM

Green terror. Mine is awesome!

Kim 12-28-2008 02:02 PM

You could...

Plant it and do groups of schooling fish. Maybe some different tetras, corydoras or kuhlii loaches for the bottom, gouramis or anglefish for the top. You could also do some rams, rasboras, or livebearers. Maybe a smaller variety of pleco. Not all of these at once of course! Basically just do a freshwater community tank with any peaceful species that you like.

Make a large rock pile and do a cichlid tank. Pick a lake and get all species from that area.

Do a species only tank. Have a favorite fish? Make a biotope aquarium that closely mirrors their natural environment, including native plants and landscaping. Lots of people do species only tanks with freshwater dwarf puffers because they are aggressive to other species, but are neat little fish. That is just an example, you could obviously choose whichever fish you like best.

Sucidemonkey 12-28-2008 10:49 PM

thanks!
 
I need help picking out a good lightning and
I was thinking sand substrate but im not sure.



So far my favorite Hang on power filter is the Emperor 400 400GPH Upto90gallon tank about 55$ new on ebay

But does anyone have a favorite filter that works great? If so a link would be word :P

onefish2fish 12-29-2008 02:00 AM

sorry to jump off topic but your 45 gallon sounds all mixed up to me.

you have 2 goldfish that are cold water fish, a "needle fish" which im guessing is a gar? that when big will be predatory towards all of the other fish, most likely eating them. a cichlid that needs hard water not to mention possibly an aggressive/territorial fish, and a pleco. besides the goldfish these fish are tropical fish and need warm temperatures. since goldfish grow so large and are so messy your prob. overstocked with just them.


anyways, a planted tank with 20-25 neon tetras?

Lupin 12-29-2008 05:41 AM

The cichlid in question is actually aggressive which is why I suggested in another of his thread to consider ditching that one. Sell or give it away. The goldies are comets which can reach 18 inches in fact. I'd replace them with orandas, lionhead or ryukins. Pearlscales are best avoided as these are more prone to swim bladder issues.

As for the 55g, I'd highly suggest making it a snail tank with white cloud mountain minnows, guppies, small plecos and even rasboras for tankmates. There are some snails that are illegal for shipping though and are best obtained within the state. A few of these would be Marisa cornuarietis, Asolene spixi, Pomacea canaliculata, Pomacea insularum and Pomacea haustrum. They're all voracious plant eaters especially the juveniles which are more destructive towards plants than adults so unless you plan to keep a planted tank, I wouldn't pick them. Sulawesis (Tylomelania sp.) are legal however these may eat particular plants so they may not appeal you much if you want a planted tank. Look at them closely though and they're very colorful snails.:mrgreen:

Pomacea diffusa, Clithon corona, Vitta usnea and Neritina natalensis will work fine with the last three being very effective algae eaters. The last three are labeled as nerites. Diffusas require permit to be shipped from state to state so make sure the seller you may get them from has permits otherwise the USDA/Aphis will track down the buyers and sellers for possible illegal activity and confiscate your stocks.

If you like predatory snails, try the assassins (Anentome helena). They are fine in planted tanks requiring meaty foods. If you can keep a constant supply of pond snails for them to eat, it's a good idea as they like to hunt down the pond snails. They are not advisable to be mixed with any other snails which they may kill. Even bigger ones are not safe as they are likely to be ganged up and eaten alive. Make sure the fish you mix them with will not nip their snouts or harass them.

Sucidemonkey 12-29-2008 10:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by onefish2fish (Post 159997)
sorry to jump off topic but your 45 gallon sounds all mixed up to me.

you have 2 goldfish that are cold water fish, a "needle fish" which im guessing is a gar? that when big will be predatory towards all of the other fish, most likely eating them. a cichlid that needs hard water not to mention possibly an aggressive/territorial fish, and a pleco. besides the goldfish these fish are tropical fish and need warm temperatures. since goldfish grow so large and are so messy your prob. overstocked with just them.


anyways, a planted tank with 20-25 neon tetras?


i dont know why but they are peacefull with each other and they seem extremly happy.

my temp is 80 degrees F
my goldfish do attack and eat the minnows i drop in my tank for the needle fish.

Lupin 12-29-2008 10:27 PM

It will not take for long before you find everyone in tatters. Just get rid of the cichlid before you regret it. Your temperature by the way is too high for goldfish. Keep it at 74 degrees Fahrenheit.

Sucidemonkey 12-29-2008 10:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lupin (Post 160210)
It will not take for long before you find everyone in tatters. Just get rid of the cichlid before you regret it. Your temperature by the way is too high for goldfish. Keep it at 74 degrees Fahrenheit.

you think they can deal with 76?

How can i tell through a fish behavior that the water tempt is to high?

im pretty bad about diagnosing but im pretty good at keeping fish alive. I havent killed one yet.( on accident

Lupin 12-29-2008 11:07 PM

Warm temperature can increase their appetite due to higher metabolic rate but this also makes them grow and age quicker hence their lifespan is cut. They tend to be more active at higher temperature than lower.


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