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Highland lake13 11-16-2008 08:58 PM

Guppy breeding
 
I have kept tanks for a few years and never have been really successful breeding anything. I have a few tanks but a 10g as become slowly emptied i would love to try and breed some type of fish. it seems like guppies would be the best choice. if anybody can give me some tips on getting started that would be a huge help. Thanks!

fish_4_all 11-17-2008 12:05 PM

Common guppies, nothing special to it. I have some in a tank and do nothing to condition them or get them to breed and I have 50 babies.

Fancy guppies are a little tougher. Need to really make sure your tank is well established and have good filtration. IME, store bought females die after giving birth but their babies seem to do really well and live through many births.

Keep your male:female ratio at 1:3 at least. I keep my commons at 1:8.

Highland lake13 11-17-2008 10:03 PM

thanks for the help! i had never heard of a ratio that high. I have heard 1:2 and 2:3 but 3:1 makes more sense. I have also heard that guppies have breeding partners is there any truth to this?

fish_4_all 11-17-2008 11:15 PM

Well I have 2 males in my 10 gallon and 11 adult females and all of the females are gregnant so pairing up is unlikely. This is common cuppies but when I had fancy guppies I kept them at least 4:1 and often it was 8:1 if not higher and my females lived long happy lives. Anytime I tried to pair them up for color matching and trying to do experiments a single female would die within a couple days of being with the single male. If she didn't die then I would find her hiding in the deepest nook or hole to get away form the male.

The ratio of 3:1 female to male is a minimum with everyone I have ever talked to on here and other forums. The idea is that with so many more females than males one female isn't harrassed litteraly to death by a male trying to mate with her 24/7.

You might be able to get away with a lower ratio but unless you are breeding to try and get specific color strains I wouldn't recommend any less than 3 females for every male.

If the intent is to breed specific ones together to get colorations intentionally then I would suggest setting up tanks with lots of hiding places for the female and only putting the male in there for 24-36 hours at a time. Is only my experience but until I got the info about the ratios from other members here I could not keep a female guppy alive for more than a week.

Please let us know if you have success with other rations and if you do, what you did to make it work. I for one would definately like to hear about it because I would love to try and breed fancy guppies intentionally for coloration again someday.

Highland lake13 11-18-2008 03:42 PM

Thanks again for the help i have already cycled the tank and will try and get the fish ASAP. I will keep everyone posted and see what is the best ratio for getting specific colors and furthermore try to see if i can keep a male and a female alone.

jr.masterbreeder 11-27-2008 11:28 AM

Make sure the aquarium is planted VERY well. that will create a greater survival rate for the fry. Java Moss works well as does Hornwort. what
color(s) are you aiming to breed into them as well as finnage? or is this just trial thing to see what turnout you get? I've bred two blues i got from a LFS and i turned out with some multicolor ones with delta tails and mostly mosaic fantails with 3 black spots on each side and a white and black speckled tail. Because of the inbreeding of guppies it is difficult to get a pure strain. Also know that female Guppies can store Sperm for up to 3 months from one mating. but she should give birth around every 27 days after fertilization.

Highland lake13 11-28-2008 12:48 AM

Well i picked the guppies two weeks ago. At the LFS They had a new shipment the day before so the tank was fully stocked. I got 2 males both snake skin one was all blue the other was mostly yellow with a little green. I also got 5 females, all had blue tales some are half black others are all white or all black. Since i picked the fish up, two of the females have dropped fry and they eached dropped about 20. the fry are sooo fun to watch. I am trying to breed blue snakehead (diamond cobras). I know that the fry won't be the strains i'm looking for but for now there just fine. I'll try to post some pics. Thanks

~Cam

Oldman47 11-30-2008 08:15 PM

Be aware that most of the fry you see between now and next May will be from breeding that took place before you got the fish into your tanks. That means don't give up too soon because you could do everything right as far as combinations of breeders and would not know how you are doing until next summer.

Highland lake13 12-01-2008 09:45 PM

I have heard that guppies and other livebearers can only keep sperm packets for only three maybe four pregnancies is it more?

jr.masterbreeder 12-06-2008 10:17 AM

yeah, I think its only 3 months they can hold the sperm packets...


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