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s72450 10-18-2008 11:48 AM

29Gal Angel Tank StartUp
 
I recently bought a starter kit 29gallon tank at Wal-Mart and would like to have a few angels. I've never dealt with them before, only other tropical fish and more than a few Bettas.

What are some good tips and techniques to angels. I'm only going to get two since it's not a huge tank, but I'd like to get some tank mates for them and some decoration. I'd possibly like to plant the tank as well. Any advice is very welcome. Thanks!

willow 10-18-2008 11:57 AM

hi
the tank will need to be 18 high at least,planted with tall
plants real or silk,the tank needs to be fully cycled,and
perferably a mature tank of over 6mths.
most people recommend to start with a group and let them pair
off naturally,taking the others back to the store.
neons can be seen as food,however i found that my angels
having grown up with the neons left them alone.
i let others advise on tank mates.
:)

kamazza 10-22-2008 08:13 AM

You might be able to do some blue rams. They are one of the most beautiful dwarf cichlids and are semi aggressive. Angels can be aggressive as well. The rams shouldnt bother the angel, especially if they are bigger, which they will eventually be.

iamntbatman 10-23-2008 01:34 PM

Things to avoid with angels:

-Big boisterous cichlids (not an issue in a 29g tank)
-Nippy fish that will go for their fins (some barbs and some tetras are the main culprits, but some people have observed angel fin nipping with things like platies)
-Really active fish that can stress out your angels. Danios, for example, pretty much never stop moving and are zipping all over the tank all of the time.
-Any fish small enough to be eaten. Fish the size of neons or smaller will get munched on by the angels once they are big enough.

As for the rams: in a 29g tank I would only risk one ram with the angels. Two rams will either be the same sex and not get along with each other, or they'll be a male and female and may breed. If they breed, they will certainly take issue with the angel, even if it is larger. The same goes for your angels. In a 29g tank I would really only do one angel and one ram, but even then I would definitely keep an eye out for aggression between the two and separate them if necessary.

Lupin 10-29-2008 07:31 PM

An angel and a ram should not be a problem. I've never heard nor even experienced either of the species taking its issues against another. Unless the angels are a breeding pair, you certainly cannot try keeping two. One is fine but if you want more, make the 29g a rearing tank. Start with 6 young angels and then upgrade to a 55g minimum.

mattyphilly 11-03-2008 03:25 PM

i wouldn't keep angels in a small tank. Maybe u can buy 6 small ones, if u are certain u will get a bigger tank later. If u wont, then dont keep angels.
Angels like vallisneria to hide in, and echinodorus bleheri to lay their eggs on. Both are green plants and easy to grow. They dont like fast moving water.
Angels are farm bred these days (except for the altums and the leopoldi), so they are quite hardy and easy to keep (providing u do ure weekly water change).
They take all kinds of food...they're fond of red mosquito larvae, which is odd cos its not found in their original habitat.
I'd get a much bigger tank first


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