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chrisjg04 09-22-2008 12:01 AM

Help! Growth on Goldfishes eye, no idea what it is!
Hey everyone, for some time my fantail goldfish has had a fleshy growth sort of thing over his eye sort of resembling an eyebrow. I put him on melafix and pimafix for 10 days with no results. I then talked to my friend who works at a local fish store and he said that he had most probably bumped into something in the tank and there was nothing I could do.

I am off away at college now and my girlfriend just came to visit me this weekend, she informed me that his eye had gotten much worse and his "eyebrow" is beginning to cover his eye. She also said it was white and described it as a barnacle.

He has been swimming and eating fine the whole time, however I am starting to worry and think this may not just be a bump and something more serious.

I have looked into eye diseases and found nothing of this sort, I don't believe it to be pop-eye as it looks nothing like the pictures that I have seen of it.

Does anyone have any idea what this may be, I would love to figure this out and help my poor fish is at all possible. :?

Little-Fizz 09-22-2008 07:40 AM

Sounds like an injury, but the primafix and melafix probably would have cleared that up :? And if it was bacterial it should have done the trick to. But to me it sounds like dead skin hanging off your goldies face. Is there anyways you could get a picture to us? That would greatly help us help you. Also, can you post your tank size, water parameters, and other tank mates? Maybe how long the tank has been set up too?

chrisjg04 09-22-2008 02:53 PM

Ill have my mom take a picture today, she is taking care of the fish for me while I am away at college.

I don't know the water parameters at this point in time because I havent been home to check them.

It is a 10g tank (Needs upgrading I know, hopefully when I go down in a few weeks I'll be getting a 29 bowfront). His other tankmakes are a Fantail Goldfish and a Common Pleco.

The tank has been set up for over a year now.

Little-Fizz 09-22-2008 07:03 PM

Can you get her to test the water?

chrisjg04 09-22-2008 07:57 PM

She would have no idea how to do it, and wouldnt understand what to do. I spend several hours with her on the phone the other day walking her through a simple water change.

Anyways here are some pictures of his eye, the best I could get from her...

Hope this helps!

bettababy 09-29-2008 02:18 PM

If I may interject here...
Even though the pictures are not clear, what I see appears to be a possible tumorous growth beginning to spread over the eye. The fact that it is raised and "barnacle like" as you put it, tells me that it is indeed excess tissue, but it doesn't appear to be hanging.

Now, the bad news....
It is impossible via internet to know if this is a malignant tumor, a progressing infection, or even a benign tumor, which is possible. Without a biopsy of the infected tissue there is no other way to know that for sure.

After reading your description of how these fish are being kept, my first guess would have to be that the issue is in large part due to water quality. To know that a 1 yr old fancy goldfish still fits into a 10 gallon tank is heart breaking, but to hear that 2 of them AND a standard pleco still fit into a 10 gallon after a year, that tells me this tank has had serious problems for a very long time.

Heavy nitrate levels are going to be unavoidable in this kind of situation. I am very curious to know how often and how much these fish are being fed, along with what kinds of foods and how often water changes are being done, and how much water each time. Heavy nitrate levels over a period of time have been known to cause these kinds of problems, and while I can offer to help you clean it up and give this fish the best chance to heal... I can't offer any help with treatment of the problem other than in fixing the conditions that caused it.

If its of any comfort to you, I took in a ryukin a number of years ago, full of tumors all over the body, covering both eyes. Everyone around me thought the fish was a goner. This fish was about 5 inches long and 2 yrs old when I took it, and coming from a 30 gallon tank with other large fish. After about 6 months in a properly set up and clean 75 gallon tank the tumors began to disappear. Slowly at first, but then faster and faster. That fish lived another 3 yrs after I took it, and it had quality of life left before it died of internal injuries, all of which appeared to be caused by being kept in a dirty tank that was too small. This fish should have lived about 20 yrs.

I urge you to find a way to either get these fish into a MUCH larger tank asap, or to find them new homes in proper size tanks. If kept under these conditions there is no way to avoid an agonizing and early death in them all.

chrisjg04 10-01-2008 02:24 AM

The fish are being fed twice daily minimal amount of floating pellets, and the pleco gets one algae wafer daily.

Water changes are preformed on that tank every other day at 50%.

I am in college and will be getting a larger tank for the fish when I am able to go home this month. I know that this tank has serious problems, I can only blame my own ignorance at this fact. The most that I can do at the moment is have my mom preform frequent water changes and keep them in the best of conditions as possible until I am able to get home.

From that point I plan on isolating the Fantail to see if any form of treatment will help. Any imformation on suggested treatments is welcome and appreciated.

Just as another note the last water test preformed yesterday brought back levels of NitrAte at 80 and NitrIte at .5. This was after several days of no water changes and now they are being given every other day and levels should drop more into an acceptable range.

bettababy 10-01-2008 02:35 AM

There really is no "treatment" other than to get the fish into proper conditions and watch it closely.

If you begin to experiment with medications you could make things much worse. Goldfish can't handle just any medication, and without knowing for sure what you're dealing with/treating for, could cause many adverse effects. My best suggestion is to keep it clean, slow feedings to once/day and only as much as the fish can finish within 1 - 2 minutes, and daily water changes... and hope it can hold out until you can get it into a proper environment.
Best of luck to you

chrisjg04 10-01-2008 09:37 PM

I was not going to treat with medication is an attempt to try them all.

My plan was to isolate the fish in the 10g and put salt in the tank to see if it helped any. I was hoping that a combination of the salt and pristine water conditions would allow it to get better over time.

Little-Fizz 10-01-2008 09:46 PM

I don't know about the salt but keeping the fish in very clean water is a really good idea.

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