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fish_4_all 12-08-2006 04:04 PM

Plans for a major future revamp
I currenty have two 10 gallon tanks running and I am planning on getting either a 20 or 25 gallon long. The idea is this:
Take all the gravel out of the old tank, all the plants, both AC 20 filters and the fish and transfer them in a matter of a couple hours into the larger tank. I know this is a lot of work toget done in a couple hours but shouldn't be too much of a problem. Both AC 20 will be used on the larger tank.

First: remove fish and place in a temporary 10 gallon after water changes in all 3 tanks to get temp and all parameters as close as possible. Second is to remove the water into buckets for adding back into the larger tank. All the plants would then be removed and placed in buckets to keep them happy. The next step is to move the 10 gallon tanks and put the 20 where they were. The I add the gravel from the other tanks and fill with the old/recently changed water. The I add the plants in a general arrangement and put the fish back in.

The fish will be drip acclimated in both moves.

Here are the big questions:
Can I expect a minor cycle or should the combination of all the plants, the seeded filters and the gravel prevent it?
Should the fish be ok being acclimated twice in a matter of 2-3 hours?
(Swords, BN pleco, neon tetras, otos, cories and skunk botia loaches)
Is there any other worries to consider in the move?

Thanks in advance and think about it as this won't happen til next year and probably not until Feb.

crazie.eddie 12-08-2006 04:46 PM

Since it's a 10 gallon tank, is it possible to just empty some of the water and move the whole tank and stand a little to the side, making room for the new tank? Then fill up the water again. You can setup the new tank properly and transition everything over to the new tank when it's ready and you can do this within a few days/weeks. I did this with the help of my cousin, to a 10 gallon and a 20 gallon long tank, with the help of my cousin. Every few days or during a water change, I would move some of the decor and fish to the new tank. This gave me time to do everything slowly and carefully without stressing the fish.

trreherd 12-08-2006 05:07 PM

y are you drip aclimating them? I only here of that on saltwater fish?
to do it i would put the fish in buckets,Transfer gravel,water,and plants.set up filters,and heaters and get the water at the rite temp. Than just drip aclimate the intire bucket of fish if you want or just net them in(it would be the same water.)

SKAustin 12-08-2006 05:45 PM

JMO, but rather than performing multiple water changes, why not perform the move as follows.

Fill your buckets with tank water from the 10 gallons.
Transfer your fish to the buckets.
Fill the new tank with 1/2 of the water from the 10 gallon
Add more water, if needed, to the ten gallon tanks if you need to gravel vac.
Transfer the gravel, decor, plants, and 1/2 of the water from the 10 gallon.
Transfer the equipment (filters, heaters, ect)
Replace the fish in the 1/4 full 20 gallon. no need to reacclimate as the fish are going into the same water
Temperatures should not have fluxuated much at all at his point
Fill the remainder of the tank with dechlorinated water.

In essence, what you have done is 1 water change. (and a glass change, lol)

Oceane 12-09-2006 10:23 AM

I just did what you are planning to do when i moved my school of angels from a 20 gal to a 55 gal. Basically i prooceeded like Steve suggested, except that i topped up the difference in between the two tanks over three days so as not to alter the water parameters drastically. It did not cause a mini cycle and the move was totally sucessful. Good luck anyhow, i think i was more stressed than the fish over the whole episode...

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