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rae3988 07-30-2008 08:13 PM

Silly question -- lonely goldfish?
Hey all,
I've had my goldfish, Odie, for almost 8 months. He was pretty young when I first got him, so he's still a fairly small fish in a 10 gallon tank. I have to travel 8 hours via car to get to my school (he comes with me) so he's gonna have to deal with the stress of traveling soon.
Back to topic--I love him to death, but I'm not always in my room. Is it possible for him to be lonely at all? Should I concider getting him a friend when I get back to school? I'd be worried about diseases and all (I love Odie, I'd be furious/heartbroken if the other fish lived and he died) and I'm still kinda new to this fish-owning thing, so I figured I'd ask here.
Any thoughts?

Fat_Fender_40 07-30-2008 09:14 PM

I wouldn't get him another fish to play with, since you're already at your limit with him. Goldfish can be quite dirty. But what about some ghost shrimp or a snail?

rae3988 07-30-2008 10:35 PM

at my limit--you mean goldfish/size tank?
and (i feel so dumb asking this) would a snail/ghost shrimp keep him company/be effective?

JouteiMike 07-30-2008 10:45 PM

10 gallon tank is much too small for a goldfish; I hope you plan on getting a much larger tank down the road, the goldfish will grow VERY fast and quickly outgrow tank, if it hasn't already. How big is the goldie? What type of goldie is it?

I don't think ghost shrimp would work with the goldfish, they'd probably be eaten, snails too have the potential to be eaten, unless you get a rather large snail.

I'm hesitant to suggest you add anything else to the tank. A 10 gallon tank with a goldfish is already pushing it past the limits. Do you have a liquid test kit for ammonia, nitrite, and nitrate? What is your routine for water changes/gravel vacuums; how much and how often? With a 10 gallon you should be doing it rather frequently, as goldfish generate massive amounts of waste, and pollute the water quickly. What kind of filter are you running?

Sorry for all the questions, but these will help us steer you in the right directions and provide you with better advice.

rae3988 07-30-2008 11:00 PM

Yeah, I definitely plan on getting a bigger tank in the future; I'm just not allowed to have a tank over 10 gallons at school. He's still pretty small (I attached a picture in the previous post from within the past two weeks or so) As for what kind he is, I'm embarrassed to admit I don't totally know, maybe someone here could tell me? I just thought he's a calico fantail.

Yep, I do have a liquid test kit for everything, the API one. I do gravel vac/water change every 3 days, approx 20-25%. I have a tetra whisper filter right now, and when I'm not broke anymore I plan to upgrade filters.

No worries about asking all the questions, it's helpful to me, too!

iamntbatman 07-31-2008 12:14 AM

If you can't have more than a ten gallon tank at school, I would suggest looking at getting a bigger tank for Odie soon as you might have to leave him at home once he outgrows the 10g. That could happen much quicker than you expect.

I hate to be a bearer of bad news, but goldfish really make pretty poor beginner fish. People assume that they can be kept in small tanks (or even unfiltered bowls) and do just fine, but really these fish need pretty big tanks (30 or more gallons per fish for adults) and tons of filtration along with big weekly water changes.

I think you should do some research into smaller fish that would be more appropriate for a ten gallon tank. For most tropical fish, all you'd have to add to the setup you've got is a heater and you'd be all set. Sure, there are the standard assortment of small schooling fish like tetras, danios, barbs and rasboras, but there are plenty of other interesting fish you could easily keep in a 10g that you wouldn't ever need to upgrade tanks in order to keep. Dwarf puffers, bettas, various kinds of killifish, gudgeons, dwarf have tons of options.

In terms of tankmates though, goldfish are somewhat difficult to find appropriate tankmates for, considering that they're coldwater fish. Like was said before, shrimp and snails might get eaten. If you had a bigger tank, you might be able to house some white cloud minnows with your goldfish, but those could get eaten as the fish grows.

rae3988 07-31-2008 09:32 AM

Yeah, I've been worrying about that for quite some time (having to get a bigger tank and leave him here). The only problem is my parents won't take care of him; I have one friend who might be able to (ironically, a moderator for this community), but I'd like to be able to see him more than 1 month a year. As soon as I can, I absolutely plan to upgrade sizes of tanks.

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