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panamera 07-25-2008 12:28 AM

Emergency~~ Plants dying? eaten? ???
 
Hi, i just bought alot of plants.....and to be honest im scared because the result i got after few hours isnt that great. i planted them...made a hole in gravel with my finger then pushed plants down and put gravel around...bascialy how you plant pot plants which pet shop guy told me.

now look how it looks. looks like its being eaten or fading or it has AIDS!

ive got these pics? anyone can tell me whats happening? maybe because its planted in new place or it just needs to get roots going or what? i dont want them to die...... and i doubt the snails are doing it...not in this short amount of time anyways. thansk to all who help.
http://img65.imageshack.us/img65/2224/dsc00834br2.jpg
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onefish2fish 07-25-2008 12:58 AM

im new to planting myself but the first picture ( the leaves on the left of it) seem to be slightly damaged and should bounce back once settled in your tank. im almost positive that plants can go through "shock" as well as fish can, but im not positive on that either, i would just asume that they can.. just remember plants are living too!! the second picture does look like something has been munching on it! but again im no plant expert and im having plant problems of my own. :x

panamera 07-25-2008 01:35 AM

oh thanks mate i appreciate the reply :). hopefully some hardcore plant person lives on this forums lol. and i hope your right and its just stress. they cost alot XD

okiemavis 07-25-2008 07:08 AM

It's natural for some plants to go through a bit of shock when they are transplanted. They need time to reestablish roots and get used to the water parameters. Some plants are also more sensitive than others. Cryptocoryne for instance is known for something called "crypt rot"- when it's transplanted all of the leaves tend to literally melt off, but they do grow back just fine.

The second photo is a bit concerning though, as it looks like something did munch on it. Do you have any fish that may be the suspect? Any snails?

panamera 07-25-2008 05:54 PM

i have guppies, mostly babies. platties and bristlenose plecos. i doubt any of those are doing that.... although i see the plecs eating off the leaves i assume they are just eating algae.

i do have ALOT of snails that hitched ride with plants agggges ago and are still here now that i have restarted my aquarium. like if i turn lights off for 2 hours and turn back on i see more snails than gravel. but my mate says the snails dont eat plants. so i dont really know..... ive been squishing the ones i see anyways..or takin em out. and i wouldnt get a loach cause it would eat my guppies and uproot my plants

okiemavis 07-25-2008 06:39 PM

I'm assuming (since they're squishable) that you're talking about pond/pest snails? Those guys definitely DO eat plants. It can also be next to impossible to get rid of them since they lay eggs all over everything. When you add new plants you can disinfect them first to prevent introducing snails to the aquarium (not that it matters at this point) by soaking them in 1 part bleach 20 parts water for about 2 minutes, and then rinsing really, really well with dechlorinated water.

I've honestly never had to deal with a snail infestation, as I have some fish who eat snails. Depending on your stocking plans you could add some snail eating fish. You could also look around and see if you could find some assassin snails, check it out: http://www.thinkfish.co.uk/fish/Assassin_Snail

panamera 07-25-2008 08:05 PM

hmm so if i get assassin snails they will eat other snails and not plants? although they look alot like the snails i have...but the colour is dicfferent. mine are just whitish....... where can i get assassin snails from? they a good idea? as long as they dont eat plants and eat other snails

panamera 07-25-2008 09:07 PM

dont think they sell assassin snails in New zealand, fish shop hadnt heard of it.

but they told me to get some liquid nutrients for plants

okiemavis 07-25-2008 10:24 PM

Ah, new zealand, if their import laws are as strict as AU, there's no way you've got the snails there.

Yeah, liquid ferts are a good plan. I don't know if you have the same brands, but I use Seachem Flourish and I really like it.

southafrica1001 07-26-2008 07:00 AM

The culprits could also be your plecos :D, that the first thing that came to mind when i saw that pattern. Is the plant also thin in some places (this is what i find my plecos do) And the plecs will definitly try and have a meal from your plants (i dont think they would be eating the algae off, not sure though). Try (if your not already) putting in zucchini, cucumber or algae wafers/pellets (this can take the bristlenose plecos away from the plants for some time). I dont know exactly if it is the plecos, but it sure seems like it, espicially if youve seen them on there :). Oh just something extra if you want plants which the bristlenose plecos wont destroy, i would try any plant that doesnt have a broad leave. Good luck finding the culprit :D


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