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SheyFirestar 07-23-2008 10:35 PM

adding loaches
hey all been a while since i posted. so ive changed about half my gravel substrate out for black sand about a week ago. tested and never saw any mini cycle or anything.

my lfs is ordering me some kuhli loaches. they are the whole reason im converting to sand. the gravel is not sharp but also not very small. i dont think they can hurt themselves on it but im not sure if they will like to burrow in it as its bigger.?

the lfs is ordering 12 loaches which i guess is just their normal shipping amount for them. i know i cant house all 12. originally i only wanted 4. but since they are ordering them for me i feel like maybe i should get 6. what are your thoughts i really like the loaches and want them to be happy. will they avoid the gravel if there is sand to play in? should i convert the whole tank?

Little-Fizz 07-23-2008 10:52 PM

Personally, I would convert it all to sand. It's really up to you though, like I'm sure they won't completely avoid the gravel, but they will most certainly appreciate sand to play in!

Before I comment on the number of loaches you want to add, what size is your tank and what is it currently stocked with?

PDXfishy 07-23-2008 11:58 PM

Yes, knowing the tank size would help to assess the situation. ;)

The thing with loaches is, they are usually small or big. If you can acommodate four, you can acommodate six, so go for it.

As for partial sand, I don't think your loaches would avoid the gravel altogether, but they would restrict their digging to the sandy areas and maybe hang out there more. Which can be very beneficial with shy species when you have the sand in the center/front.

Lupin 07-24-2008 01:25 AM

A 29g should be able to support all 12 kuhli loaches.

SheyFirestar 07-24-2008 02:36 AM

sorry yeah guess that would have helped yes its the 29 gallon. currently home for 2 rosie red feeders that i cycled it with. these guys will be the first real addition to my tank. also what do you guys suggest for mid to upper level fish. are swordtails ok? ive been thinking about trying to get a hifin lyretail male sword you guys have any experience with them?

Lupin 07-24-2008 03:03 AM

Swordtails are fine. The only problem is dealing with fry. These are very prolific fish. Try some Columbian tetras to eat the fry.

SheyFirestar 07-24-2008 10:21 AM

yeah im definately not going to get them until i figure out what to do about the fry. ill check into those tetra im not sure if i know what those ones look like.

SheyFirestar 07-25-2008 11:12 PM

4 more days til my loaches come in. so what do you guys think on how many. and also the rosies will be relocated to the stomach of my friends oscar so they will be removed before the loaches are rehomed. these have become my new favorite fish and i want them most of all to feel like the tank is thiers. thats why im adding them first i want them to develop their territory. as i said in this thread id like to leave enough room for some mid to upper level swimmers at minimum 3 swordtails (1male 2 female). this is going to be a while i think before i can really get them but im trying to plan ahead a little.

okiemavis 07-26-2008 09:32 AM

I'd say go for all 12- loaches are way cooler in big groups. It'll still leave room for plenty of other fish. You'll be fine with 3 swordtails and some other guys as well. If you don't want to deal with the fry, why not just add males? Although it sounds as if your friend with the oscar will gladly accept the free food.

Little-Fizz 07-26-2008 09:52 AM


What okie said! :D Ps, my swords have had fry so many times, and like by the time I notice and I go on a hunt through the tank to find them, I'll find like one. And they rest are prolly up the filter or in the bellies of their parents. So I wouldn't worry to much about the fry. Nature will take care of things.

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