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SheyFirestar 07-16-2008 05:44 PM

Eco-complete ok or no?
 
so ive had some trouble getting my plants to grow in my tank. i use root tabs for my amazon swords. i have a liquid fert that ive used twice now, once when i got it about two weeks ago. and then i added some when i did my weekly water change. my swords were looking really bad but some color has come back. ive thought about changing over to a substrate like eco-complete but im wondering if using it in my whole tank is overkill for a lightly planted tank. i would like to expand on the live plants i have over time so cost isnt the issue.

so would eco-complete in a lightly planted tank be too much nutrients. like would it make algea grow better also. hope you guys can help.

also should i try a diy co2 injection instead?

SheyFirestar 07-19-2008 10:04 PM

ok is my question just that dumb or what. no answers out there at all?

im just trying to think of the long run what ill want and i really want to keep some kind of loach probably 4 - 6 khuli loaches. the gravel i have in there isnt sharp but its large and id rather see them dig around in something like sand. but ive heard people say there loaches do fine with eco-complete so ive thought about switching over to it that way i could grow some nice live plants.

hope someone out there responds.

Busgod 07-19-2008 10:31 PM

I have zebra loches, corys they like rooting in the eco complete I would not worry about it my plecos don't mind either

I have 80 lbs of eco complete in a 55 gal tank, I also have a area in front of tank that is a gravel the eco complete doesn't seem to mix with the gravel. IMHO if you are going to add more plants go the eco complete way if you want a area of gravel do that also.

okiemavis 07-21-2008 04:35 PM

Any enriched substrate, including eco complete, should be fine. They shouldn't leach many nutrients into the water. However, keep in mind that none of these stay good forever, and you'll have to add other fertilizers when the nutrients have been used up.

sinadyan 07-21-2008 06:00 PM

what type of lighting do you have, and the wattage?

SheyFirestar 07-22-2008 06:38 AM

a single 18 watt 6700K bulb on a 29 gallon tank if i didnt mention that. thanks for the help. i think im going to order a bag of eco-complete soon

Amphitrite 07-22-2008 06:50 AM

I was having difficulty with my plants until I added eco complete. I absolutely love it - so do my plants. The only thing I would say is that it can take a few weeks before you'll start to see any siginifcant difference, but once it starts taking effect the result is incredible. The only ferts I use alongside it are root tabs.

Ashkat 07-22-2008 10:02 AM

How did you go about adding the substrate? Doesn't it involve digging up all your plants and replanting them? I'm thinking I may end up having to do this in my 28 gallon, but I only just got most of my plants in there. I'm hesitant to pull them out, not to mention stressing the fish out again!

Any suggestions?

Amphitrite 07-22-2008 12:04 PM

When I changed from sand to eco complete I removed most of the fish first of all (except the kuhlie loaches which are next to impossible to catch). Then I removed all of the existing plants, put into a bucket of tank water, removed the sand with a gravel vac then added the eco. It clouded the water for a bit, and I waited for the cloudiness to subside before planting.

okiemavis 07-22-2008 05:53 PM

It's mostly just really annoying and a lot of work, but it can be done. Keep in mind that a lot of the beneficial bacteria in your tank is in the gravel, so you may go through a mini-cycle if you're not careful. One way to combat that is to fill a nylon stocking with the old gravel and leave it floating in the tank for a while. I also recommend upping your gravel vac regimen beforehand to try to keep stirring up gunk during the move to a minimum.


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