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bf2king 07-15-2008 05:35 PM

Thinking of re-doing my 55.
My 55 currently holds :
2 Senegal Bichir (1 albino)
1 Pictus Catfish
1 Clown Pleco
1 Glass Knife Fish
6 Silver Dollars
and various feeder shrimp.

I was thinking of getting rid of everything but the shrimp knife and pleco. If i did that id want to not overstock :oops: my tank again and would like schooling fish that are more then big enough to defend themselves. Though the glass knife does not have the charectoristic "over sized" mouth that other knifes have so it doesnt even eat the shrimp. It eats bloodworms, flakes, and brine shrimp. I was wondering if you thought a school of tiger barbs would be to fin nipping for the knife (he is maybe half of the weight of the silvers but beats on them to get at food)

Any and all sugestions are nice. Maybe ill get rid of them all and do 1 south american cichlid.

qpc68 07-16-2008 05:13 PM

The tiger barbs would probably be ok if you kept them in a large enough school. Somewhere between 6-10.

Cody 07-16-2008 05:40 PM

Eh, I had the worst experience with Tiger barbs. Started off with 8, and went down to four before the one dominant one kept killing the new barbs and started to attack my other fish. I wouldn't reccomend them to anyone, but in answer to your question, they should be able to defend themselves unless it is like a bad beating thing.

You like the more aggresive fish, correct? The first thing I thought of were maybe African Cics, but you would probably have to get get rid of the Knife then. If you did, then *maybe* Demasoni Cichlids (not sure if the tank is big enough). Those are aggresive little buggers.

If you want to keep the Knife, then Tiger Barbs are really the only thing I'm finding that should fit. Just be sure to get a large enough school, or else you will find out why I got so mad over them. Maybe like, 10-12?

bf2king 07-16-2008 09:32 PM

I was thinking maybe going for smaller schooling fish insted of my usually "the more odd the better" i usually do.

Sry to hear that Cody. Though i dont want to go through the whole 200lbs of rock for a 55 gallon tank ordeal needed for most africans and the knife fish i readily enjoy (he comes out day or night idk y but i tend to get knife fish like that) I was thinking even possibly doing a school of pearl or zebra danios just because of how small the knifes size is and the thing i worry about with the tiger barbs is my knife has so much to nip and i like him the way he is. :wink: I have alot to think about and all sujestions are welcome (as long as they have a shread of comon sense to back them up)

Little-Fizz 07-16-2008 10:04 PM

Personally, I think you should keep the ABF those are soooo cool!

iamntbatman 07-17-2008 01:20 AM

I think that the knife fish is goofy looking enough (no offense) that tiger barbs might ignore it. I have a 20g tank with 6 tiger barbs. Initially I had only 5 but they got into some scraps amongst themselves so I added another and haven't had problems since. They seem pretty rowdy so I don't think I'd trust them with fish with long fins and the like, but my barbs completely ignore my dwarf puffers and the clown pleco. If your LFS would let you give it a try, I don't think the barbs would mess up your knife *too* fast and you could get them out of there if they start to get mean.

Of course, that's all given that you really want to give the barbs a shot. You could consider other barbs as well, like rosy or black barbs. You've also probably got room to house tee barbs. I've never kept these other types though so I'm not sure how they'd get along with the knife fish.

Lupin 07-17-2008 01:49 AM

I'm cleaning this topic. If I see more posts going offtopic regarding ethics, they will be dealt with accordingly. Thanks.

bf2king 07-17-2008 06:01 AM


Originally Posted by Lupin
I'm cleaning this topic. If I see more posts going offtopic regarding ethics, they will be dealt with accordingly. Thanks.

Thank You.

Thats nice to know about the barbs, but my knife is also alil of a bossy guy. He might just try to push the wrong barb around then itll be war i like the look of tiger barbs but with the knife i dont think ill do them.

Im thinking :
5-6 Charry Barbs
5-6 Small Danio (leapard, pearl, zebra)
1 Glass Knife
1 Clown Pleco
1 Sunset Dwarf Gouramis (maybe a Pearl one instead?)

Im not sure if this would over stock my bio load with the Knife and Clown Pleco sucking it up pretty well.

I would keep the afb but he limits my stocking so much with that massive mouth of his.

qpc68 07-17-2008 09:49 AM

I don't think you'd be overstocking. I think that would work out pretty good.

iamntbatman 07-17-2008 01:07 PM

That stocking list sounds good. For the cherries I think you should get a ratio of 2 females to every male. This gets you the best coloration out of your males. Several of the smaller danios will school together, like the leopards, zebras, blues, and any of the long-finned varieties of those.

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