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killavixen 04-13-2013 11:49 AM

2 Dead , 2 very sick... help please
 
1. Size of tank? 6 gal

2. Water parameters
i had them tested and everything was good except ph was slightly low,6.3

3. Temperature? 79

4. FW

5. How long the aquarium has been set up? 2 months

6. What fish do you have? 2mollies, 1 dwarf gourami, 1 cory cat.
How big are they? 1-2 inches How long have you had them? 2 months

7. Were the fish placed under quarantine period (minus the first batch from the point wherein the tank is ready to accommodate the inhabitants)? yes now

8. a. Any live plants? yes Fake plants? no
b. Sand, gravel, barebottom? sand
c. Rocks, woods, fancy decors? river rcks and quartz

9. a. Filtration? power
b. Heater? yes

10. a. Lighting schedule? yes What lights are used? incandescent
b. Any sunlight exposure? yes How long? a few morning o\hours

11. a. Water change schedule? yes, every week
b. Volume of water changed? 25- 50
c. tap water
d. Water conditioner used? yes , Amquel plus, Novaqua plus
e. Frequency of gravel/sand (if any) vacuumed? every day

12. Foods? BettaMin flakeds, API Bottomfeeder
How often are they fed? daily

13. a. Any abnormal signs/symptoms?
One molly is unable to float and lays upside down on bottom, all fish have this white film or fuzzy spots. I had a guppy die after only showing sign for less than a day, the loach showed no signs last night and was dead this morning with thick white stuff. Fish still have appetite. they are not moving much at all.
b. Appearance of poop? brown, small strings.
c. Appearance of gills? normal

14. a. Have you treated your fish ahead of diagnosis? salt water bath
b. What meds were used? aquarium salt

EDIT: One mollies tail is white on very end then turning black.

Not all fish are affected, Gourami and catfish have no spots and are completely active

MoneyMitch 04-13-2013 12:29 PM

sounds like either velvet or ich to me

when you had the water tested how long ago was this?
before or after these sighns started to show up?
were all fish added at once?
are you able to get a picture?
do you notice any rapid gill movement as in does it appear they are heavily breathing very fast?
how recent was the water tested for ammonia, nitriate and nitrite

killavixen 04-13-2013 06:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MoneyMitch (Post 1740137)
sounds like either velvet or ich to me

when you had the water tested how long ago was this?
before or after these sighns started to show up?
were all fish added at once?
are you able to get a picture?
do you notice any rapid gill movement as in does it appear they are heavily breathing very fast?
how recent was the water tested for ammonia, nitriate and nitrite

Two days ago WC
Before signs
Fish were all bought at different times, no rapid gill movement, one molly, the on that cant float, has labored breathing... Its not ich or velvet

MoneyMitch 04-13-2013 06:31 PM

i would get a test again since you are now seeing signs Im going to suspect a ammonia spiek is to blame, but then again it could be the notoriously poor genetics of livebears. hopefully someone more knowledgeable with them will come along soon.

killavixen 04-13-2013 07:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MoneyMitch (Post 1743345)
i would get a test again since you are now seeing signs Im going to suspect a ammonia spiek is to blame, but then again it could be the notoriously poor genetics of livebears. hopefully someone more knowledgeable with them will come along soon.

i took them to get testes, water is still good

killavixen 04-14-2013 01:16 PM

One of the mollies was dead this morning but the other molly seems fine, but a slight case of fin rot trying to start where the white stuff was

MoneyMitch 04-14-2013 01:42 PM

try melafix

Romad 04-14-2013 02:35 PM

If you could post some pictures, that would be really helpful.

It def. is not ich and fungal infections are more rare than bacterial but if there is true fuzz, it could very well be fungal. The fact that the molly's fins are turning black could be signs of fin rot. Are the fins rotting away or just turning color?

On a side note, is there any reason that you're doing a gravel vac. every day? Is this just because the fish are sick?

killavixen 04-14-2013 04:07 PM

I vac everyday because i have sand and it lookes gross with all th poopsies. And the tail doesnt seem to be deteriorating it just is black on the very edge. And i disposed of the dead fish before i thougt about taking any pictures. but i'll try to get a picture of my remaining molly's tail.

killavixen 04-14-2013 04:12 PM

It looked like this though
http://www.flippersandfins.net/Images/Flex2.jpg
it was also on the mouth and gills.


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