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aunt kymmie 06-02-2008 04:46 PM

Stocking a new tank....
Hi. I'm brand new to the forum. I still haven't figured out how to edit my profile or add a picture!

Anyhow, I just purchased a new 100 gl acrylic tank. I currently have a 10 gl that houses my Pleco, Pictus & Upside Down cat. They are all still small, only 3" each. I decided they needed a bigger home and they always say buy the biggest tank you can afford. My question is about new tankmates. Obviously I will wait until the 100 gl cycles but when it's ready I have no idea what I should consider stocking.

I kept an aquarium more than 20 years ago. I had a 55 gal Discus tank, only discus, no other tankmates. I loved that tank. Can my cats withstand 83 to 85 degree water discus require and are they too "active" to be kept with discus? Any suggestions (other than cichlids, as I know these would be great) as far as tankmates? I saw a school of red tail tinfoil barbs that were very pretty but perhaps they will grow too large for a 100 gl to accommodate? If I did stock with juvenile red-tail tinfoils what other tankmates would be appropriate? Any suggestion(s) is appreciated!

Thanks! Kym

bf2king 06-02-2008 05:27 PM

For an 100 Gallon with ur stock i would do :
6-8 Silver Dollar Tatra's
1-2 AFB (African Butterfly Fish)
and maybe a large school of tiger barbs (provided u dont get the AFB's tiger barbs are natorious fin nippers)

There are very few fish that can tolerate the high temps needed for discus. Discus are considered super tropical and are the only fish i know of u can literaly "cook" ich off of.

iamntbatman 06-02-2008 06:45 PM

I think the pictus will be a little too active for the discus. I've read conflicting reports about pictus; some say they do better in larger schools but others say they get more grumpy and territorial as they get older. So, you may or may not want to add more pictus.

aunt kymmie 06-02-2008 07:00 PM

The pictus is VERY active and has quite the personality. I did read that they liked more of the same for company so I think I'll forgo wanting to keep discus in favor of adding another (or 2) pictus. Now to figure out the rest of the tankmates......

iamntbatman 06-02-2008 07:33 PM

If you're going to have more than one pictus, I would definitely get three rather than two. It's a good rule of fishkeeping to get more than two of a species of fish (other than those species that form pairs) to avoid bullying. This way, if the fish eventually decide that they're not the best friends in the world, the meanest fish will have two fish to pick on and therefore you won't get one fish that gets constantly harassed by the meaner fish.

Pictus get to be about 6" and are active fish, but with a 100g tank you could still stock a decent amount of other fish in there in addition to the three pictus. Keep in mind that pictus are predatory, so I wouldn't add any smaller tetras, rasboras, etc as they would very likely get eaten.

bf2king 06-02-2008 07:55 PM

i forgot to mention
With Silver Dollars u cant have live plants.
I was told java fern was a good one that they didnt like the taste of but mine devoured my jave fern. Also they are "softies" (all scales fish are im pretty sure[pictus are considered scaless due to how small their scales are]) so they need soft water. I would doblack substrate cause imho it seems to have calmed my fish down from when i had tan gravel.

My solo pictus catfish is the boss of my tank and he tends to just relax in the mountain (3-4 larger peices with a peice of slate) of driftwood i have.

Also pictus love frozen foods. AFB enjoy live food aswell. When i got mine it only ate crickets but now it prefers his live ghost shrimp.

Another idea would be maybe 2-3 Glass Knife Fish. They have exceptionally small mouths in comparison to other knife fish (many people keep them in comunity tanks because of their small mouth) and are scaless. They do best in schools of 6 but 2-3 would be just fine in a 100 gallon. They can get 1 ft + but rarely reach that as far as i know in captivity. Mine is about 8 inches. But with how small their mouth is they need blood worms, black worms, brine shrimp......etc

aunt kymmie 06-02-2008 08:01 PM

Thanks for the pictus info and the #3 rule. Even tho I
maintained a discus tank over 20 years ago I'm starting
to realize I know nothing about fishkeeping.

When I had my discus I never did any cycling,
water testing, etc. I performed water changes once a week
and keep the temperature at 83 to 85, and I fed them
live tubifex worms. At least I knew to "wash" the worms.
I didn't cycle the tank, I just filled it up with tap water
and put them in. It's amazing they lived with me for two years
before I gave them all back to the breeder who sold them to me.
I was moving out of state and could not take them.

I know nothing about ammonia, nitrates, nitrites etc.
I only understand PH. I have a lot to learn. Luckily I'm now
going to give the tank two months to cycle as I figure I'm
going to need that amount of time to learn what I need to learn.

I have a feeling I'll be booted off as I'll have
way to many questions! After reading many postings
and threads it seems like everyone here is helpful and
very knowledgeable.
Thanks for the input!!

iamntbatman 06-03-2008 02:18 AM

One thing I can say with certainty is you will *not* be banned for asking too many questions! It's amazing how much you can learn about the hobby here just by reading people's questions and the responses to them. In the starting and maintaining a freshwater aquarium section, there are good articles about the nitrogen cycle and how to cycle a tank.

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