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silentdreamer1009 04-11-2013 09:27 AM

Cloudy 10 gal fishtank with guppies and sand
I was thinking about getting some guppies and putting them with neon tetras and maybe a sucker fish and some ghost shrimp but I don't know if the 10 gal I am gonna get is big enough? Also I want to use sand because I heard it helps the ph but the person I am buying the fishtank from is having trouble keeping the fishtank from getting cloudy I am curious if anyone has any ideas. They say the filter keeps kicking up the sand. I didn't ask them if they rinsed the sand before they put it in the tank which I will be doing when I get it. Everything is coming with the fishtank: sand, filter, light, lid, and a few other things. I plan on getting a heater as well for it and maybe a bubble wall. I thought I'd ask a few questions before I started so I know more of what to do with this size of a tank. I am very open to any suggestions anyone has. Thanks!

Chesh 04-11-2013 10:05 AM

Welcome to the forum, and hooray for soon-to-be new (to you) tank! It's good to ask these kinds of questions in advance, always nice to see people who take the time to learn!

You may not realize it, but there are a LOT of questions contained in your post! I'll try to address some of them, and I'm sure others will chime in with further information. . .

First, a 10g tank isn't considered to be very big, you don't have a lot of room for stocking. A good place to start would be to look the fish you're thinking about adding up in our Tropical Fish Profiles, the link is located on the dark blue toolbar at the top of the screen, and sometimes a fish name will be shaded in blue on a thread, this will also link you directly to that profile.

Tetra and Guppies require different things from a tank. Though some people do keep them together, it isn't really the best for either type of fish. A good starting point when considering stocking is to try to figure out what kind of water you have coming out of your tap. Some fish prefer soft water, some like hard, and some need to be in a specific pH in order to thrive. These things can make a big difference in their expected lifespan, and overall health. Sometimes a call to the local water company can get you this information, or fish shops can run tests for you - if not, there are tests available that you can do yourself at home.

Along the same lines of water hardness and pH, Sand can affect pH, but some sands are inert, and don't. Neither one is 'good' for the pH as such. . .because this depends entirely on the fish you choose to keep in the water! As a general rule, you're best to choose fish based on the type of water that comes from your tap - matching the fish to the pH and water hardness that you have available is so much simpler than trying to change it and keep it stable when you're starting out. Though many people do it, I feel it's much easier to learn with what you have. Once you gain a more complete understanding of how tanks work, then you can begin to look into altering things, if you wish to.

There is a LOT to be learned about water hardness in the aquarium, and it can be a bit confusing at first. Take the time to read this article on Water Hardness and pH, you will find some very valuable information in there! Feel free to ask loads of questions, it can be very confusing at first! :-)

You'll want to put a fair amount of research into 'suckerfish' before you go any farther, too. The Common Pleco that you will see in many beginner's tanks are not suitable for small tanks at all, they grow to be very large, leave more waste than they allegedly 'clean,' and can be aggressive to tankmates. . .

Shrimp could do very well in a 10g tank, provided the water is right, and the tank established. However, they can be fussy, so again - more research into which specific type of shrimp you're interested in and their needs will be required before you decide.

I'd like to take a moment to direct you to our article on the Nitrogen Cycle. Very important information to understand when keeping a tank, and especially before adding new fish.

Hope this helps direct your questions a little bit! It can be a lot of information to take in at once, but taking the time now to learn as much as possible will go a long way to ensure that your tank is happy and healthy (without cloudy water which was likely caused by mismanagement by the previous owner, or dirty sand, impossible to know without more specific information) for you to enjoy for years to come!

silentdreamer1009 04-27-2013 05:41 AM

Thank you for your help. This is a quick update for you now. I have set up my tank and I cycled it a little bit with fish food 4 days prior to adding fish and I didn't add any fish till the ammonia level was on the safe side. It has been running with fish for almost 2 weeks now. I have guppys and ghost shrimp now in the tank. I kept doing water changes every two days because I kept getting an ammonia spike on my reader and I went to the pet store where I bought the fish and had them test the water. They said everything was ok except the ammonia was a little high but not bad the lady at the pet store referred me to an item called quick start which adds bacteria to the tank and wait for a week before doing a water change. The ammonia in the tank has dropped to safe on my readers since adding the quick start which was yesterday. I also have a moss ball I have bought and put in the tank which they said would help cycle my tank too. The moss ball since buying it has almost doubled in size itself since I got it which was almost a week ago now. My ghost shrimp love the moss ball and it keeps them busy as well I got algae wafers for them and they told me to feed them 1/4 to 1/2 a wafer every 3 days. I have even seen my guppys munch on the algae wafers as well.

I have one question tho. I got a breeder net that goes inside the tank and I got a very pregnant female who looks like shes about to have her fry soon and shes been isolating herself and chasing the others away and shes not been eating or shes been picking at the food and spitting it back out and also her eyes off and on turn completely black for a couple of days while she was in the tank with the other fish but once I put her in the breeder net her eyes are normal. Should I leave her in the breeder net since she seems less stressed or should I leave her in the tank? I took her out of the breeder net after 24 hours because I read on the internet that if they are left in the breeder net for over 24 hours they become stressed and may miscarry the fry. I also had read that when their eyes turn black like that they are stressed. Do you have any ideas of what I should do?

silentdreamer1009 04-27-2013 05:50 AM

Oh I forgot to say the ph level is 8.0, nitrate is 0, ammonia is safe on my reader in the tank and the dip stick it says it is ideal.

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