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dprUsh83 11-16-2006 10:05 PM

Blue Guorami and a Pink one?
Hey all, I got hustled today. I went into PetCo to buy some dog treats and of course I had to check out the fish just for fun. Well, somebody had just brought in some adoption fish because he had to move. He had two guorami's and a full grown tiger oscar (which was a beautiful HUGE fish!). Well, after engaging in conversation he said he'd rather me keep them in with my oscar until I can find them a home as opposed to them staying there. I don't know why, but it meant a lot to him and I couldn't turn him down. Anyways, I don't know anything about them. I don't know how long I'll be hanging on to them until I can find them a good home, so any general information? They're adjusting pretty quickly and doing well. Can they eat cichlid pellets for a while or would it be better to get them a more suitable diet?

Thanks all, and yes....I am a sucker. :oops:

Lupin 11-16-2006 10:15 PM

Gouramis and oscars are incompatible. What was the size of your tank with oscars? 30 gallons? Apart from incompatibility, your tank would be beyond the stocking limits which already is.

What is the pink one? Gourami? Some fish are dyed which I would avoid as they can be quite vulnerable to diseases and will only serve as lightning rod to infect your other fish.

Gouramis will eat anything given to them.

dprUsh83 11-16-2006 10:17 PM

Well yeah, I know the stocking won't work as far as long term goes, but I'm just taking care of them until I can find them a home so I'm not worried about that. As far as the compatibility goes, none of them appear to be aggressive towards each other and the oscar is swimming up and down the tank with them.

Lupin 11-16-2006 10:20 PM

I would still stick to the rule that gouramis should not be mixed with oscars. Cichlids have personalities that can vary and they are often unpredictable.

dprUsh83 11-16-2006 10:44 PM

Okay, I'll keep that in mind and try to pick up the pace to find them a home. They're slightly bigger than my O at the moment, so the threat isn't more than a lot of stress I'd imagine, but even still I don't want to do damage. I think I know somebody who will want at least one, so that will help out quite a bit too. Thanks for the info, I appreciate it! :D

bettababy 11-16-2006 11:41 PM

The "pink" gourami's you are speaking of sound like pink kissing gourami's aka, kissing fish. They get this name because of the movement of the mouth when they spar with each other or during spawning.
These CAN be kept with the oscars so long as they are large enough that the oscars can't/won't eat them. Kissing gourami's get quite large, about 6 inches in diameter, can be somewhat aggressive if feeling crowded, or if smaller, weaker, more peaceful fish are in the tank.
I will agree with Blue that 30 gallons is not suitable for 2 kissing gouramis and 2 oscars, of any size. Watch your water quality carefully, it will likely spike all at once, and ALL of the fish in that tank are then at risk.
Kissing gouramis are sensitive to water quality, as are oscars.
For diet, I would work with tropical flake food, brine shrimp, bloodworms, and/or frozen formula 1 food. The formula, brine, and worms are all suitable foods for the oscars, also, the formula food being the more nutritious food for them even over pellets. With the garlic, it helps to boost the immune system, which helps to protect them from common illnesses and disease issues. Be VERY careful not to overfeed them, especially in a tank of that size. With the frozen formula 1, put a few cubes into a cup of tank water and let it thaw completely through before feeding it. (this usually takes 15 - 20 minutes for a few cubes) When puting it into the tank, break it apart into small "chunks", your fish should love it and have no problem eating it all very quickly. You'll want to make sure all of the fish are getting the food, as both kissing gouramis and oscars can be quite stingy, greedy, and aggressive during feedings.
I hope this helps...
Here is a link to a picture of the pink kissing gourami
let me know if this ISN'T the fish you're speaking of, and I will do some research.
Blue, I'm not familiar with gouramis being dyed... there are certain traits a fish needs in order for dying to "work" the way it's intended. Even if it were dyed, it would not make the entire body one solid color. The dye is something that runs through blood vesssels and organs, which is why you see it more as "stripes" or "blotches" in dyed fish. Tetras, danios, and glass fish are the most popular for the dying process, which is very cruel and painful for the fish, and the survival rate of the injected fish is very low. The dyes also tend to fade out as the fish grows, so it's only temporary color.

dprUsh83 11-16-2006 11:47 PM

Dawn you're absolutely right, it's a kissing gourami! So that leaves me with a blue and pink "kissing" gourami. Thanks for the information and proper identification, that will help tremendously in finding out more about the fish so I can find them a suitable home. Also, you had mentioned that my pink gourami is okay with an oscar, how do you feel about the blue? As far as size goes, they're both bigger than my oscar. The individual giving them away was VERY savvy with his fish and had to move too far to move with his fish. He took very good care of them, so I am confident in their health. Until I find them a new home I'm just going to plan a water change every other day to be safe. I did a water change today, so it's a good day to put them in at least (for the time being).

bettababy 11-17-2006 12:04 AM

Well, for starters, there is no such thing as a blue kissing gourami. There is a blue gourami, but the body shape and markings are quite different, as are fin styles. A standard blue gourami is ok with the oscars if it's bigger than they are, but I'd keep a close eye on that, as it can change quickly. Blue gouramis can also be quite aggressive.
I am wondering if it's actually a blue gourami? Does it have long "tentacle like fins" coming from the bottom of the body? It would help a lot of I had a better description or if you could post a picture.
I'll help you to sort it out, just keep feeding me information.
Here are links to 2 species of blue gourmai. The first is a standard blue...
and this next is for a dwarf blue....
Let me know if it turns out to be one of these... if not, we'll start over and I'll show you pictures of other blue fish that would normally get along with kissing gouramis.
Personally, I don't think it's a good idea to mix blue gouramis of any sort with kissing gouramis, as they get far too nasty with each other as they mature.

dprUsh83 11-17-2006 12:10 AM

Oh sorry, I didn't separate enough. One is a blue gourami and the other is a pink kissing gourami, the blue has the long tentacle looking things, so it's definitely a blue.

bettababy 11-17-2006 01:05 AM

Ok, so we have 1 blue gourami, 1 kissing gourami, and 2 small oscars... I would make sure there is a LOT of decoration in this tank until you can find them homes, and I would also suggest finding them "seperate" homes where the blue gourami is concerned. Long term it can live with the kissing gourami in a large enough tank, but eventually would become food for a healthy, full grown oscar.
Let me know if there's anything more I can help you with.

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