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jmelissa82 04-11-2008 06:39 PM

Rinse Flourite?
Are u suppose to rinse flourite, cause it says its prewashd ( like all gravel bags do) and to give it another rinse. Only problam is I've been rinsing 1/3 og the bag for the last 10 mins, and all its doing is making mud? How on earth can I put this mess in my tank???

okiemavis 04-11-2008 06:58 PM

Haha, yes, definitely keep rinsing, it's nasty stuff. I rinsed mine like crazy and it took two days to clear out! If you look at my tank log you'll see a pic of one VERY cloudy looking tank.

jmelissa82 04-11-2008 08:22 PM

How do I look at ur tank log? I have been bumping around this site for about a week now, but still dontr know how to do anything :oops:

herefishy 04-11-2008 08:34 PM

Flourite is some dusty stuff. It took me two hours to thoroughly rinse two bags. I used a strainer and just kept on rinsing. A quart of Jim Beam and a 2-liter Diet Coke helped me pass the time.

okiemavis 04-11-2008 08:42 PM

Damn, I should have tried that! No wonder I lost the will to keep rinsing...

jmelissa82 04-11-2008 09:06 PM

Yeah same here, all I've got is 1 cloudy tank, and 1 pissy attitude! WEll its still really cloudy but I can start to see my babies. They don't seem to mind to much. They got new plants and "caves"( terra cotta plants covered in java moss). They are a happy bunch, except for my loaches, I had to dig them up, and they are still a lil upset :( , but o well, all will be forgotten in the morning!!

okiemavis 04-11-2008 09:09 PM

My tank was totally clear in 2 days. Are you floating your old substrate in the tank to prevent a mini cycle? Also, you may want to rinse your filter media in old tank water every/every other day as it's going to get REALLY gunky, really fast. No need to compromise the GPH, that will just slow down clearing it up more.

jmelissa82 04-11-2008 10:05 PM

I'm glad u mentioned that. I'm new at this and that last few days I've seen people talking about gh and kh??WHat are these, until then I've only heard of ph. Yeah, I have already done a partial water change cause I'm going thru a slight mini anyway. And I cleaned of my filter, I am sure I will have to do it everyday anyway. My filter is crap! Its the one that came with the tank, and the "waterfall" water flow, is barely a trickle. I have a 20h, what would be a good filter for me to use, any suggestions. I bwliwvw its a whisper brand. Also I don't understand the lighting for plants. Everyone is talking about watts, and spectrum and stuff like that . All I do know is it is a sorry 15 watts :(, I know thats bad, but when I went to the pet store, they had a mound of lights I quickly got confused.

okiemavis 04-11-2008 11:23 PM

Filter- you want something that filters all 20 gallons at least 5 times per hour. If you check the brand of your filter it will have a GPH rating (gallons per hour). I use the penguin brand power filters, and like them, although I've heard really good things about the marineland brand power filters as well. A mix of filtration is also a good way to go- you could do a sponge filter and a power filter. I'd recommend an UGF, but I assume you really don't want to tear up the substrate again, and there are lots of alternatives that are just as good. Personally, I do not like to use carbon in my tanks, as it has to be replaced so often, and is unnecessary. You just want to look for a filter in which you can easily put filter media in other than carbon.

Lights- 15 watts is fine if you have fake plants, although you may appreciate how much nicer your fish look under better lighting. If you want live plants you're going to have to upgrade. The spectrum is how much red, blue, green etc. is in your light. They are rated in numbers in the thousands. Freshwater plants grow best in light between 5,000k-10,000k. The standard for freshwater plants is 6,700k. DO NOT buy actinic for your tank. It's a waste, as it is only needed for coral growth. A lot of people buy actinic thinking it will be good for freshwater, but it's basically a waste of wattage, as it does not benefit plant growth at all. There are also different types of lights- incandescent, florescent & metal halide. Within that there are many different kinds of florescent. Let me try to break this down for you:

-Incandescent: pretty crap, not really used anymore. Very inefficient and produces too much heat.
-Florescent: Most power efficient. There are tube florescents like t-5 and t-8, the higher numbers are better. There are also compact florescent lights. I like them the most, it's the most bang for your buck and the bulbs last much longer.
-Metal halide- expensive, complicated and produces a lot of heat. It can be very, very good for both fresh and SW growth, but it's not worth it unless you're looking to do some crazy expert setup.

jmelissa82 04-12-2008 12:15 AM

Well I do have real plants, and they are doing fine so far but thats only because they have been in there about a week, I know their luck will run out soon. So I read my hood, and it says 24" reflector, 19 watts ( the bulb itself says 15) 120 v and 60....something irrelevant. But none of this means anything to me. But if my hood is 24", then my light can only be like 18" right? and can I just buy a new bulb or do I have to get a whole new hood? The one in there now is a flourescent, just too low wattage.

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