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MoneyMitch 03-22-2013 03:34 PM

ferts
 
which is better in your OPINION to use from the major brands kent seachem api etc etc

nobody seems to match what seachem has in florusih as far as being as comprehenhisve as it can, only thing i found was x2 products of kent that would do what that does. yes they are cheper but together it it is about the same as a bottle of flourish.

Ingredents for Kent Marine Pro Series Pro Plant Freshwater Plant Growth Accelerator

Total nitrogen (N) 1.0% - 1.0% Nitrate nitrogen, Magnesium (Mg) 0.05% - 0.05% water soluble magnesium (Mg), Sulfur (S) 0.06% - 0.06% combined sulfur, Boron (B) 0.0002%.
Derived from sodium nitrate, magnesium sulfate, boric acid.
Non-plant food ingredients: kelp extract 0.026%, de-ionized water 98.67%

notice there is no iron in there,

but they have another product to use in combo

Kent Marine Iron & Manganese Plant Supplement
the ingredents for this are Soluble potash (K20) 3%, iron 0.24%, manganese 0.01%, modybdenum 0.000005%, zinc 0.00014%. Non plant food ingredients: de-ionized water 96.5%. Derived from: muriate of potash, iron EDTA, manganese EDTA, zinc EDTA, sodium molybdale, cobalt chloride.

now here is flourish ingredents



Guaranteed Analysis
Total Nitrogen 0.07%
Available Phosphate ( P2O5) 0.01%
Soluble Potash 0.37%
Calcium (Ca) 0.14%
Magnesium (Mg) 0.11%
Sulfur (S) 0.2773%
Boron (B) 0.009%
Chlorine (Cl) 1.15%
Cobalt (Co) 0.0004%
Copper (Cu) 0.0001%
Iron (Fe) 0.32%
Manganese (Mn) 0.0118%
Molybdenum (Mo) 0.0009%
Sodium (Na) 0.13%
Zinc (Zn) 0.0007%

Derived from: Potassium Chloride, Calcium Chloride, Copper Sulfate, Magnesium Chloride, Ferrous Gluconate, Cobalt Sulfate, Magnesium Sulfate, Manganese Sulfate, Boric Acid, Sodium Molybdate, Zinc Sulfate, Protein Hydrolysates.

i couldnt find any ingredent list for leaf zone, but just want to get a opinions from others that use either of these and why not the other. i personally use flourish just cause so many good reviews but may switch when i run out so i wanna plan ahead

JDM 03-22-2013 03:57 PM

I didn't find much that compared to it based on labels and recommendations.

Something I didn't really notice before, it has more chlorine than any other constituent... that likely explains the long self life.

Jeff.

BWG 03-22-2013 11:22 PM

You're going high tech right? Are you looking for one of these to use in that tank or one of the others? If it's the high tech tank then I wouldn't use either, but use dry ferts instead.

MoneyMitch 03-22-2013 11:29 PM

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Originally Posted by blackwaterguy (Post 1516089)
You're going high tech right? Are you looking for one of these to use in that tank or one of the others? If it's the high tech tank then I wouldn't use either, but use dry ferts instead.

high tech wa the original plan, but once i had the shopping list together had to get a ok from the wife. that was a quick no lol, so ive since changed to going low tech.

BWG 03-22-2013 11:34 PM

lol High tech is fun, but a lot more work. I was using dry ferts even low tech and am halfway considering stopping my CO2 for the time being. The date isn't right, but here was my tank when it was still low tech and with dry ferts dosed according to EI.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v255/c_leed/004-3.jpg

MoneyMitch 03-22-2013 11:38 PM

wow lol, i would of assmued dry ferts would have been too much without additional co2. i still yet to try any "high light" plants yet but im having sucess with the medium light ones so far. what type of stem plant is that in the back right? looks like some type of ambulia? btw love the red plant, that lugudia?

ao 03-22-2013 11:40 PM

i use solutions prepared from dry ferts ^_^ its really just diy seachem without paying for the water

MoneyMitch 03-22-2013 11:43 PM

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Originally Posted by aokashi (Post 1516289)
i use solutions prepared from dry ferts ^_^ its really just diy seachem without paying for the water

true, but even for my indoor veggie garden i use prepaired solutions, well buy them prepaired anyways. i just dont feel comfortable really with mixing dry ferts, afraid ill really screw up my tank. and yea you have a point the liquid ferts are like 90%+ of DI water.

maybe break it down for me how and what use do to mix your own solution? kinda liek a tutorial of how to do it, i know thats asking alot but if you have the time ^^

BWG 03-22-2013 11:47 PM

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Originally Posted by MoneyMitch (Post 1516241)
wow lol, i would of assmued dry ferts would have been too much without additional co2. i still yet to try any "high light" plants yet but im having sucess with the medium light ones so far. what type of stem plant is that in the back right? looks like some type of ambulia? btw love the red plant, that lugudia?

In the back right is Rotala sp Bangladesh. Grows like a weed for me. The red plant is Rotala macranda. It's tricky but worked for me in medium light. I just had to top it and toss the bases every so often.

I'm with aokashi. I don't feel like paying for water. I don't mix solutions though, just measure it out and dump it in the tank.

MoneyMitch 03-23-2013 12:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blackwaterguy (Post 1516377)
In the back right is Rotala sp Bangladesh. Grows like a weed for me. The red plant is Rotala macranda. It's tricky but worked for me in medium light. I just had to top it and toss the bases every so often.

I'm with aokashi. I don't feel like paying for water. I don't mix solutions though, just measure it out and dump it in the tank.



going to try those out they look sick, where do you get your solutions/know how much to use etc etc? and how precise is the measurements? like do i have to go get special stuff to get measurements with or can i go to walmart and look in the baking section for measurement stuff?


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