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calfishguy 03-14-2013 07:03 PM

Is my 55 overstocked
 
I have a 55 gallon tank that has a ac70. I do one 50% water change a week. Nitrates are usually between 10-20ppm. I will most likely be adding either a fluval 406 or a second ac 70 soon.

I was wondering if i could add more fish. Its well established and has been running for over a year and a half.

Current stock:
2 dwarf gouramis
2 boesmani rainbows
1 trificshiata rainbow
4 lemon tetras
2 brisltenose plecos
8 black skirt tetras
1 leopard gourami
according to aquadvisor its 86% stocked

Here is what I would possibly like to do in the future:
2 dwarf gouramis
4 boesmani rainbows
1 trificshiata rainbow
6 lemon tetras
2 brisltenose plecos
8 black skirt tetras
1 leopard gourami
2 german blue rams
according to aquadvisor that whould be 111% stocking.

Thanks!!!

Olympia 03-14-2013 07:10 PM

I think you are fine to add, but I would change what you are adding..

I would not add the dwarf gouramis, your current ones probably have their territory established and might not appreciate new comers.
I would definitely not add another leopard gourami (if you mean ctenopoma by this). If you had added a group of them they would have been fine, but from what I've read once they grow up you cannot add more to the tank since they will be too aggressive.
Instead of those I would add more rainbowfish..

The German blue ram, I don't think this fish is suitable for the tank, as I think they need really warm water that these fish won't like, but I might be wrong as I don't know about them much. :p

calfishguy 03-14-2013 07:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Olympia (Post 1468507)
I think you are fine to add, but I would change what you are adding..

I would not add the dwarf gouramis, your current ones probably have their territory established and might not appreciate new comers.
I would definitely not add another leopard gourami (if you mean ctenopoma by this). If you had added a group of them they would have been fine, but from what I've read once they grow up you cannot add more to the tank since they will be too aggressive.
Instead of those I would add more rainbowfish..

The German blue ram, I don't think this fish is suitable for the tank, as I think they need really warm water that these fish won't like, but I might be wrong as I don't know about them much. :p

Oaky i think you may have misunderstood my first post. I would only add the rams, 2 boesmanis and 2 lemon tetras.

Olympia 03-14-2013 07:17 PM

Ahh, then that should be fine.. Still the issue about the rams. Have you read our profile for them?

calfishguy 03-14-2013 07:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Olympia (Post 1468518)
Ahh, then that should be fine.. Still the issue about the rams. Have you read our profile for them?

I have read your profile and 80-82 isnt really that hot IMO. My 55 is at 78 and bringing it a tad higher really wouldnt be a big deal

jentralala 03-14-2013 08:41 PM

That would be too warm for the other fish in the tank, is what she means. It would stress them out.

calfishguy 03-14-2013 08:46 PM

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Originally Posted by jentralala (Post 1468667)
That would be too warm for the other fish in the tank, is what she means. It would stress them out.

Not trying to offend anyone but IME most fish will be fine in the 76-83 range as long as they are properly acclimated/the temperature is raised slowly. The temp thing is not really a concern for me. My tank was actually at 80 until a few weeks ago when I read an article about high temps. It might actually have been on this site.

jentralala 03-14-2013 09:24 PM

It shortens their lifespan because they have to work harder to do normal everyday things. They can handle extreme temps for short periods of time but that's it, then it starts to stress them out and weakens their immune system.

calfishguy 03-14-2013 10:31 PM

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Originally Posted by jentralala (Post 1468731)
It shortens their lifespan because they have to work harder to do normal everyday things. They can handle extreme temps for short periods of time but that's it, then it starts to stress them out and weakens their immune system.

I myself won't call 80 an extreme difference from 78 but that's just me. I also checked three websites and two of my books and I believe 78 is fine for rams. Just to confirm something though do you know if there are references for the info in the fish profiles.

AndrewM21 03-14-2013 11:00 PM

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Originally Posted by calfishguy (Post 1468815)
I myself won't call 80 an extreme difference from 78 but that's just me. I also checked three websites and two of my books and I believe 78 is fine for rams. Just to confirm something though do you know if there are references for the info in the fish profiles.

Rams prefer 76-78 but will do absolutely fine in 80 degree water granted you accurately acclimate them to the temperature. You should not expect to see any decrease in life span by keeping them at that temperature.

Profiles are based on "general" fish information, and do not accurately describe every fish. You should use these as a general rule of thumb when picking out new fish, but it's perfectly fine to change the parameters.

I have mixed parameters for a lot of fish and have had no issues doing so. Granted I would never severely alter their parameters, but small changes should have no ill effect. If you were keeping a cool water fish (IE 72 recommended and you kept them at 80) then you would see a decrease in their life span.

Hope this helps.


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