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MoneyMitch 02-23-2013 11:40 PM

more co2 questions
 
ok so i know now about the equipment im going to have to round up for a pressurised co2 injection, only issue is its going to take me some time to get it all togther. my question(s) are

1. is a DIY yeast setup going to be ok for a tempory use untill i get the automatic system?
2. Will the ph decrease form the co2 be ok for the fish? i know co2 lowers ph and this is how you figure out your co2 ppm and ive read that 30 ppm is reccomended. my ph now is around 8 and gh is like 120-140 or soemthing liek that

setup is

Lights will be dual 58watt t5 ho 6.7
Standard dimensions for a 48 inch long 55 gal
going to start with swords and anachris sp? i know the swords are mainly root feeders but pretty sure the anarchris are more from the water colum? only want to have co2 in the water to help discourage a algae outbreak but i also know i will need plants in there to use the avialabe nutrients and co2 so that algae does not become a problem even though ill probobly run into it untill i find my balance.

any help with any of this is greatly appriciated!!:-D

ladayen 02-24-2013 12:12 AM

a DIY yeast Co2 system is often inconsistent unless you are very familiar with how they work. I would not do that.

I'm confused, I dont think Co2 is going to have much effect on what you want.

As to the fish, it's very possible your fish will have issues with the PH change, a rapid change will almost certainly will have ill effets.

MoneyMitch 02-24-2013 12:32 AM

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Originally Posted by ladayen (Post 1442742)
a DIY yeast Co2 system is often inconsistent unless you are very familiar with how they work. I would not do that.

I'm confused, I dont think Co2 is going to have much effect on what you want.

As to the fish, it's very possible your fish will have issues with the PH change, a rapid change will almost certainly will have ill effets.

from what i understand of high light applications there is not sufficent co2 for the plants to use as in combo with the nutrients they are using, they can only grow when they have co2 and the nuts they need to be able to grow. so when they run out of co2 there is still plenty of nutrient and light for algae to use thu resulting in a algae bloom.

and with the ph change what is the best way to introduce co2 into a high ph tank without casuing stress on the fish? co2 and low ph go hand in hand as the co2 acts as a buffer (correct me if im wrong)\

as far as the yeast setup i know they are pretty inconsistent but i know exactly how to set one up and have everything i need laying around the garage. but is it advisable to use untill i can get the auto system together?

ladayen 02-24-2013 12:38 AM

Ok so are you doing all this because you have high lighting?

Are you doing this because you want to have certain plants?

MoneyMitch 02-24-2013 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by ladayen (Post 1442778)
Ok so are you doing all this because you have high lighting?

Are you doing this because you want to have certain plants?

dual t5 ho for a 55 is high lighting from what i have heard. and yes i am wanting micro sword

ladayen 02-24-2013 01:18 PM

Ahh ok. Sorry I misread your post and wasn't sure what your goal was.

OK as to your current conditions you might want to get some jungle Val. Very fast grower so will consume lots of nutrients, and you can just cut the top as it grows to tall for your tank.

I wouldn't do Anacharis as it seems to be a "temperate" plant and doesn't often do well in a tropical tank.

Until you can get your Co2 system set up you will likely just have to shorten the amount of time the lights are on to help prevent an algae outbreak.

MoneyMitch 02-24-2013 04:00 PM

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Originally Posted by ladayen (Post 1443173)
Ahh ok. Sorry I misread your post and wasn't sure what your goal was.

OK as to your current conditions you might want to get some jungle Val. Very fast grower so will consume lots of nutrients, and you can just cut the top as it grows to tall for your tank.

I wouldn't do Anacharis as it seems to be a "temperate" plant and doesn't often do well in a tropical tank.

Until you can get your Co2 system set up you will likely just have to shorten the amount of time the lights are on to help prevent an algae outbreak.

great! thanks for the advice

Mikaila31 02-25-2013 12:33 PM

I've never had the pH change bother fish when injecting CO2 provided there is decent buffer in the water. Just make sure you monitor CO2 with a drop checker.

MoneyMitch 02-25-2013 04:59 PM

when u say to monitor it with a drop check what do you mean? the only way i know how to measure ph is by a chart i found online having to do with kh gh and ph which gives you your co2 ppm

ladayen 02-25-2013 05:25 PM

Most systems have a valve you can adjust to control how much Co2 goes into your tank. It limits how many bubbles or drops per minute. (BPM/DPM)


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