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MoneyMitch 02-22-2013 03:02 PM

Fin Rot?
 
So i have oscar that has very tiny sections of fins missing, ive read a little on fin rot and think this may be what he has? either that or from fin nippers in the tank. does anyone have any good pictures of the start of fin rot what it looks like? and if he does havde it what is the best way to treat it? my tank is still in the middle of cycle and i know some emds will kill the bac.

MoneyMitch 02-22-2013 05:55 PM

forgot to mention he is eating well bold vivid color and is pretty active, but im just worried with the small sections missing if its start of fin rot? none of the other fish have any signs of what his fins do

MoneyMitch 02-23-2013 09:14 PM

any help?

Romad 02-24-2013 06:45 AM

It might be better if you can post a picture here of the fish.

If you google image fin rot you're going to see all kinds of pictures that may or may not fit what you're describing.

If the edges look black(ish) or rotten, it's a good possibility.

MoneyMitch 02-24-2013 12:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Romad (Post 1442878)
It might be better if you can post a picture here of the fish.

If you google image fin rot you're going to see all kinds of pictures that may or may not fit what you're describing.

If the edges look black(ish) or rotten, it's a good possibility.

what is the best way to treat and how contageous is it?

Romad 02-24-2013 12:57 PM

Can you isolate the fish and do daily water changes? Pristine water is going to be important for healing.

In early stages, people have used Melafix with good results but if more advanced, you'd have to get a gram-negative med like Maracyn II or Tetracycline.

Romad 02-24-2013 01:12 PM

Another thought, the edges of the fins don't necessarily have to look black - they can look spongy or whitish too. I said black because that's the color I've seen predominantly in some of those betta cups in the chain stores.

But they will definately not look like a clean break or tear in the fin. Hope that makes sense.

MoneyMitch 02-24-2013 08:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Romad (Post 1443166)
Another thought, the edges of the fins don't necessarily have to look black - they can look spongy or whitish too. I said black because that's the color I've seen predominantly in some of those betta cups in the chain stores.

But they will definately not look like a clean break or tear in the fin. Hope that makes sense.

he doesnt have anything fuzzy on him and none of the other fish have this, hes still super active and all seems well. is it possible it could just be a case of some fin nipping? how long should i watch him before medicateing? i dont really have anywhere to put him other then the 55 with all the other fish. and i know most medication is poisonus to the fish its just a amtter of poisioning the illness before the fish dies while poisoning the fish at the same tiem.

Chesh 02-25-2013 12:35 AM

I agree with all Romad has said, and it *would* be best if you had any way to get an image up for us to look at.

Fin rot is one of those funny things that can present in a variety of ways, darkened edges around the torn edges is one, but it can also look more like frayed edges - basically, the edges of the fins are disintegrating, so fin-rot won't generally look like a clean break - while a fresh nip or an injury will.

Even if the injury was caused by a nip or a tear, fin rot is something to be on the lookout for, as it is a bacterial infection that can easily affect a torn fin if it gets the chance. Fungal infections are also likely to take advantage of a situation like this, so even if you don't see it now, keep a close eye on things as they heal. Also be on the lookout for any redness in the fin.

The GOOD news is that, given a low-stress environment and clean water, most torn/ripped/nipped fins will heal up very quickly on their own. Keep the water extra clean, and keep a close watch on the injury, and if all goes well it will heal up in no time and medication shouldn't be necessary.

I would highly recommend that you park yourself across the room from the tank with the overhead people lights out for a while and watch your tank. Keep very still, and the fish will forget about you - if there's a fin nipper in the bunch, you'll find him when they forget that you're there and resume normal behavior - this could take an hour or so, so be sure to have a comfy seat! Another option is to set up a video camera and leave the room, then scan for anything odd. If not a nipper, look to the ornaments in the tank, is there anything that the fish could have snagged or torn his fin on?

If you do see signs of fraying at the edges of the fins, or darkening, redness - or anything other than a clean break in the fin, it may be worth medicating. Finrot isn't something that is contagious, necessarily. Rather, it's a bacteria that is always present in our tanks, and doesn't generally cause a problem until poor conditions, stress, or a torn fin, allow it to get a foothold and cause trouble. . .

I hope this helps, and that you figure out what caused the injury and that it heals up very quickly for your poor little friend!

1077 02-25-2013 06:29 AM

Not enough info on tank to do anything but guess.
If it is fin nipping from African cichlid's you chose to place with the Oscar, then med's will have little effect and symptom's may (Prolly)reappear.
Have used product Quick cure for mild finrot as per direction's.


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