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trudymae 02-14-2013 10:48 PM

did i do it right?
We did our first water change ever on Monday. We did a 20 percent change 10 gallons to be total. I did my first water test and the nitrate was and still is unsafe, the nitrite was at 3.0, hardness 150, chlorine 0, Alkalinity 120, ph is 7.2. That is why we did the water change and the lady at petsmart told me to buy and use Kordon Amquel plus Ammonia Detoxifier which at first I only added to the 10 gallons of water. The next day I checked the water again and it was worse the second day than when I did the test again. I am starting to worry. I hope the girl didn't lead me wrong on my tank. I have a lot of money time and most importantly love! My fish are my babies and I worry over them quit a bit. I know I am about to loose another Gourami I already lost one today and we haven't had them that long. Did the lady at the lfs lead me wrong?


Boredomb 02-14-2013 11:51 PM

Have you tested your tab water to see what might be in it as far as Nitrites,Nitrates, and Ammonia??

What size tank is this?? The conditioner she had you buy is fine. I use it myself. If the parameters are out of range I would do 50-75% water changes every day till the nitrites are 0 any number over that is bad (deadly at high numbers). What is the ammonia and nitrate readings?
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Nilet699 02-15-2013 12:09 AM

Yes other readings would help.
Other details on the tank etc etc etc

Also, I'd suggest seachem prime as it will detoxify both ammonia and nitrites for 24-48 hours. I don't know if your product does both.....

Added to this you could add plants to absorb the ammonia and nitrites. A floating one like water sprite which is fast growing is always suggested.

trudymae 02-15-2013 12:18 AM

yes I did and the nitrite level is pretty high to start with. We have never did a water change before just added water when it dropped a little and always and added prime to the water. We had just started to have a brown alage problem so I had a water test done. I have to admit it was the first water test ever done on the tank. Until now I have lost no fish and they have been growing and seemed very happy until the water change. I have no faith in the conditoner that she handed me. Should I have used the Prime too?????? I am super worried and I have to work 2-10 tomorrow and no time for a water change until Monday on my day off.

trudymae 02-15-2013 12:29 AM

until the water change I have been using Prime this was the first time I have ever used anything different is that my mistake? We already have some plants Java fern and two other ferns and plan on picking up the water sprite tomorrow as well. I don't know what other reading to give the temp is at 74-78, the nitrate is 80, nitrite is 1.0, the gh is 150, chlorine is 0, the kh is 80, the ph is 7.2. I just did the readings from the tank and listed them so they are very current. The ammonia is 0 also. We have many diffrent fish Gourami, Cichlid, tetras, bala's, algae eater, molly and guppies.

Boredomb 02-15-2013 01:16 AM

You don't want to use both conditioners at the same time. Either work just as well as the other with the exception that Prime binds Nitrates or Nitrites I can't remember now and it does it by mistake. I personally don't like Prime as it cost too much and it messes with the water too much.

What size tank is this?? Do you have all those fish in the same tank??

essjay 02-15-2013 03:27 AM

See this thread here for all of Trudymae's info... :-)

My 55 gallon in trouble fish dying!!!!

PS Trudymae, am I right in seeing that you've only done your first water change after 8 months???

Please, please, please have a look at the sticky's in this section...

A Basic Guide to Freshwater Fish Stocking

A Beginner's Guide to the Freshwater Aquarium Cycle

Important Topics

There is so much information on this site, it can be a bit overwhelming, but take the time to research and I'm sure everyone here will try to help as best they can...

trudymae 02-15-2013 11:23 PM

we re-homed all but our sharks, Gourami, red tips algae eater, cichlids, and the albino rainbow shark.
that leaves us with 1 albino, 3 Gourami, 3 red tips, 1 algae eater, 3 cichlids, 3 bala's
that is a total of 14 fish in the 55 gallon tank.
I am hoping that this eases the bio load of our tank.

jentralala 02-16-2013 12:04 AM

I would still re-home the bala sharks. I know you may be attached, but you are doing them no favors by keeping them.

Nilet699 02-16-2013 12:10 AM

Just FYI.
I'll post straight from the profiles to keep it short and factual :-)

Bala sharks
Minimum Tank Suggestion
A 6-foot tank is suggested by some sources but given the size of this fish and its shoaling nature an 8-foot tank is preferable

Other fish must be large enough not to be eaten, and able to tolerate this fish's very active swimming. This is a shoaling species with a pronounced social structure within the group, and must be maintained in groups of at least five fish. Fewer will result in aggression to the point of death of subordinate fish, and/or aggression toward other species in the tank.

Read more: Bala Shark (Balantiocheilos melanopterus) Profile

what are red tips? you have a proper name for them?

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