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JDM 01-14-2013 08:42 AM

New Life Spectrum food primary, looking at 2nd and 3rd food options.
 
I picked up some food with my fish last week (I guess it was the week before) and I started by looking at the most expensive prepared food on the shelf to check ingredients. The New Life line seemed pretty good, various whole fish meals even though they have some soy and wheat ingredients... since when have fish ever eaten soy and wheat? At least, when checking against the cheaper lines, the wheat and soy is lower on the list and it is WHOLE named fish meal as opposed to just fish meal. The price is not much of an issue as a 600g jug is likely to last a long time... perhaps I should freeze it.

This reminds me of looking at olive oil... you can get extra virgin cold pressed, extra virgin, virgin, extra pure, pure, light and each step is lower on the quality level and higher on the processing level.

Anyway, they use the same ingredients in most of their products in varying proportions and have quite the selection of sizes of pellets, sinking and floating.

Their general ingredient list is as follows:

Whole Antarctic Krill Meal, Whole Herring Meal, Wheat Flour, Whole Squid Meal, Algae Meal, Soybean Isolate, Beta Carotene, Spirulina, Garlic, Vegetable and Fruit Extract (Spinach, Broccoli, Red Pepper, Zucchini, Tomato, Pea, Red and Green Cabbage, Apple, Apricot, Mango, Kiwi, Papaya, Peach, Pear), Vitamin A Acetate, D-Activated Animal-Sterol (D3), Vitamin B12 Supplement, Thiamine, DL Alphatocophero ( E ), Riboflavin Supplement, Folic Acid, Niacin, Biotin, Calcium Pantothenate, Pyridoxine Hydrochloride, L-Ascorby-2-Polyphosphate (Stable C), Ethylenediamine dihydroiodide, Cobalt Sulfate, Copper Proteinate, Ferrous Sulfate, Manganese Sulfate, Choline Chloride.

I was looking at adding a second food source but really didn't see much better or more varied for ingredients. Short of frozen or freeze dried worms and things, is there much point in adding a second and third food option here?

I did find a recipe for loaches on another site a while back, I don't think my wife would appreciate me using the blender in that manner but the ingredients were interesting. I'm pretty sure that it wold be fine for most fish excepting those with specific dietary needs.

Fish are Cherry Barb, Betta (still working out fine) and Emerald Catfish later this week.

Jeff.

Geomancer 01-14-2013 08:58 AM

No, there is no point in a 'varied died' these days if using a quality food (like NLS is). That advice dates back to when prepared foods were not that great.

In fact, most frozen/freeze dried foods are not all that nutritious (for example bloodworms). Some are, some are not, but there is no need to supplement a good prepared food any longer. Fish really do like the frozen foods though, but they are best left as a treat rather than a staple.

Omega One is another good brand, they mostly have flakes rather than pellets, but they do carry both. I've used both, and most of my fish preferred the flakes over pellets, but in my 20g tank the Serpae Tetra enjoy the pellets as they sink, as they never go up to the surface to eat.

1077 01-14-2013 09:05 AM

Have found that when buying large container's of food,food can go bad long before fishes eat it unless feeding several tank's.
I buy several varieties of food's in smaller volume and mix it all together in small tuppeware tub's and refridgerate them.
Hard in my view to beat New life spectrum,Ocean nutrition,for nearly all fishes. But I tend to also favor pellet food's by Hikari for loaches,cory's,cichlid's,along with chopped frozen krill,earthworm's,freeze dried cricket's(fluker's) ,Meal worm's,wax worm's.(I do not offer blood worm's)
Most all fishes will do better with variety rather than one or two types of food's.
Just my two cent's.8-)

AbbeysDad 01-14-2013 11:33 AM

Any fish food using fish meal will have to use copious amounts of starch (rice, wheat, oat, soy flours mostly) as a protein binder/filler. NLS does use whole herring and whole krill meal which is better than some fish meals that are just the waste byproduct of fish processing plants.

Omega One uses whole fresh fish and kelp in their foods. Ed's Almost Natural uses fresh, food grade fish (the same fish you would put on your table) in his foods.

JDM 01-14-2013 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by AbbeysDad (Post 1390233)
(the same fish you would put on your table)

I was thinking about this. What sorts of fish could I serve up? It would be very easy to chop up some fresh market fish into little servable tidbits to drop into the tank. Shrimp, salmon, scallops....?

I like to feed our family (kids, dogs... and now fish) good food but it also needs to be appropriate. I don't feed our dogs people food unless it's meat leftovers or fresh veggies as we prep dinner.

Jeff.

Geomancer 01-14-2013 12:00 PM

Anything really, just make sure it's not spiced up (remember, salt is a spice). But I wouldn't feed that exclusive. Most fish are omnivores, so they need plant mater as well as meat and they should really get whole fish (as in guts included) to get maximum nutrition out of it. There are a few people who make their own fish food, it isn't entirely uncommon just most people prefer the convinced of buying it already prepared.

As Abbey said, the wheat and such are required as a binder, no way around them being present in prepared foods.

AbbeysDad 01-14-2013 04:04 PM

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Originally Posted by JDM (Post 1390248)
I was thinking about this. What sorts of fish could I serve up? It would be very easy to chop up some fresh market fish into little servable tidbits to drop into the tank. Shrimp, salmon, scallops....?

It seems to me that any sort of fresh fish would be fine in limited amounts. Bear in mind that prepared fish foods are often whole fish (as Geo mentioned) and also enriched with vitamins and minerals that will likely not exist in your table fish.

I would feed cut up fresh fish as a treat, much like you would with frozen fish foods (e.g. frozen brine shrimp).

Tracy Bird 01-14-2013 08:27 PM

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Originally Posted by AbbeysDad (Post 1390233)

Do you feed with his products?

If so which ones?

Prices seem reasonable and the information on the site gives you confidence in knowing what you are buying.

AbbeysDad 01-14-2013 10:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Tracy Bird (Post 1390933)
Do you feed with his products?
If so which ones?
Prices seem reasonable and the information on the site gives you confidence in knowing what you are buying.

I have used Tropical Flakes and Super Green. They are very similar in appearance to the products offered by Omega One. The prices are good, but the shipping makes them a bit more expensive than the Omega One products so I'm using Omega One right now.


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