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FuelingFire 01-09-2013 02:14 PM

Ammonia in my planted tank.
 
ok i been keeping an eye on my tank. still adding plants it's getting full but not full enough for me. So i been keeping an eye on my ammonia levels and its keeps reading between .25 and 1.0 but i have a ton of green algae, I did get some Otto's the other day. one died sometime last night. but the other 2 seem to be fine. I did a 40% water change Sunday. My loache's, snail and cory's seem to be fine. I know my tap as .25 ammonia. (but that's because of the chlorine isn't it?)

Anyway my tank is about 60% planted. i got duckweed coming to me. to help with shade and because research says they are a great floating plant to have. and i use to have them in my pond until the gold fish ate them.

So am just wondering should i be worried. my ammonia say 1.0 as i tested it 20 min ago. i got 10 gallons of tap and 11 gallons of bottled set up to do another water change.

I am just worried.

Byron 01-09-2013 02:33 PM

A bit more data on this tank will help others. [For the record, this thread arises from a PM from the OP to me.] Size, fish in it, date set up, water change schedule.

Chlorine and ammonia are not connected, but if chloramine is being added to your water, then yes, ammonia is in that.

FuelingFire 01-09-2013 02:47 PM

Tank is 55 gallon. the fish is in my signature. my tanks been running for 4 weeks, fish was added last week, Not sure if water has chloramine but know it has chlorine, been treating water as both. water change schedule is every Sundays, I use 10 gallons of bottled water and 10-12 of tap. beings bottle water is expensive every week. i do a 50/50 bottle and tap on water change.

FuelingFire 01-09-2013 02:56 PM

I also should add my ph is 7.4, temp is 79, GH & KH is 177. I been adding plants every week. and even propagated a couple of them. all of them are growing, and are healthy, but they are covered in algae

mrbprint 01-09-2013 06:48 PM

Is the algae green or brown? Green is from the ammonia and light, cut back on wattage or length of time on. Brown is just a natural occurance in new tanks and usually goes away. A constant ammonia reading is an indication that tank is not cycled yet.

Byron 01-09-2013 07:11 PM

I would agree. And I would also recommend using a conditioner that detoxifies ammonia at each water change until this is resolved. Cover the top with floating plants, I think duckweed was mentioned that is a good ammonia sink too.

FuelingFire 01-09-2013 07:32 PM

Yeah I have mostly have Green algae a little green hair algae, and some brown algae. And i do use my water conditioner every water change. I think i will Change the water again in the morning to lower my ammonia.

JDM 01-10-2013 09:04 AM

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Originally Posted by FuelingFire (Post 1384597)
Anyway my tank is about 60% planted. i got duckweed coming to me. to help with shade and because research says they are a great floating plant to have. and i use to have them in my pond until the gold fish ate them.

So am just wondering should i be worried. my ammonia say 1.0 as i tested it 20 min ago. i got 10 gallons of tap and 11 gallons of bottled set up to do another water change.

I am just worried.

What is does "60% planted" mean? and what would 100% be? Perhaps it's just not enough plants to handle the load.

If your tap water has ammonia I'd recommend dropping some plants in your change water the day before using it and put it in some sunlight if you can... if it starts at .25ppm then you will never get your water in the tank near zero with water changes alone. Using a detoxifier will help initially and may provide enough time for plants to do their thing in the tank before the ammonia reverts back but it would be nice to have zero going in.

Jeff.

Jeff.

AbbeysDad 01-10-2013 09:25 AM

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Originally Posted by FuelingFire (Post 1384964)
Yeah I have mostly have Green algae a little green hair algae, and some brown algae. And i do use my water conditioner every water change. I think i will Change the water again in the morning to lower my ammonia.

Most conditioners that treat chlorine do not detoxify ammonia. Seachem Prime is the only conditioner I know of that treats chlorine/chlorimine as well as detoxifies ammonia, nitrites and nitrates AND heavy metals. The detoxification lasts 24-48 hours giving the established tank (beneficial bacteria) time to process the ammonia.
Using Prime, you could reduce or eliminate the need for your 50/50 mix with bottled water. This would especially be true if you add sufficient plants and perhaps reduce the volume of your weekly water change (perhaps switch to two water changes spread out each week for 5-10g each).
As for the algae, floating plants 'should' out compete for light and food, but you may need to slightly reduce lighting duration.

Good luck. Keep us posted.

FuelingFire 01-10-2013 10:29 AM

Hey JDM i'm going for a heavely planted tank, I have alot of plants in their but not enough to my liking so i say 60% to the mass of the inside tank.

And i agree with both of you as far as the ammonia, but the reason i do a 50/50 water change is to also keep my pH lower then the tap. but i did a water change last night of 10g.

But as soon as my floating plants come in that will help. i also turned my light timer back. to 6 hours. I will keep everyone posted. thanks for the help.

I guess my tank never really cycled before i put fish in, even tho i had been checking it.

So Abbeysdad do you think i should get the prime, or just do the split water changes?


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