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SaveGoal 01-02-2013 05:41 PM

Compatibility and overstocking in a tank
I have a 46 gallon tank that is still cycling and was wondering what fish would work in it

So far I had in mind
1x African Butterfly
2x Leaf Fish
1x Bush Fish
2x Tri-Band Sumo Loach (I have somebody that will take one of them once they get to big

I have some decor at the bottom of the tank and a little area of dwarf hairgrass and I have some Hornwort floating around the top

Is this tank overstocked and will all the fish get along


Byron 01-02-2013 07:19 PM

I think there are some issues there, but I would like first to know the specific species. Common names can be confusing, and two of those mentioned are easier to ID.

The African Butterfly Fish, Pantodon buchholzi, is one I have kept for many years, and many years ago now. This species is best in a pair, male and female. You can read more in our profile, click the shaded name.

The bush fish presumably is Ctenopoma acutirostre, it too is in our profiles. This will need a larger space.

A caution on potentially-large fish: never acquire a fish that will outgrow the present tank, unless you have the larger tank now. Circumstances change. And someone who may say they will take the fish later, may not. And the fish suffers if not kept in suitable surroundings all its life.

And, welcome to Tropical Fish Keeping forum.:cheers:


Granberry 01-02-2013 10:06 PM

I haven't kept any of those fish, BUT I just ordered 2 of the Sumo loaches, and I am pretty sure they don't get very big, i.e., 4 inches. What I'm calling a Sumo loach is a Schistura species loach; IDK if they're all called "tri-band" or not. Based on what I've read, they won't do any picking on others...whether they'll be harassed by those other fish I can't say.

SaveGoal 01-03-2013 06:43 AM

Thanks for the information

So is this better
2x African butterfly
2x south american leaf fish
2x sumo loaches

Is there room for another species. If so then can you give any recommendations for another type of fish


Byron 01-03-2013 11:43 AM


Originally Posted by SaveGoal (Post 1375876)
Thanks for the information

So is this better
2x African butterfly
2x south american leaf fish
2x sumo loaches

Is there room for another species. If so then can you give any recommendations for another type of fish


Still don't have the scientific name for the "sumo" loach, but assuming it may be Schistura balteata, I would point out that it requires a different habitat from Pantodon. Here is a link to some reliable info on Loaches Online:
Schistura balteata — Loaches Online

The Pantodon needs very quiet water, like a swamp or pond; so would leaf fish. Lack of any noticeable current is important. The loach as with many of its kind needs water flow. And sometimes lower temperatures, again related to water flow; quiet waters are usually warmer.

SaveGoal 01-03-2013 03:30 PM

Thanks for the infirmation

Granberry 01-04-2013 01:59 PM

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I got my sumo loaches today, and there was no Latin name on there. I am attaching a picture of it though just for general interest. Isn't his eye freaky looking? It looks like a badly drawn human eye.

SaveGoal 01-06-2013 10:42 AM

I agree they do have pretty cool eyes and the reason I like them is because they have a different body then other loaches.

Granberry 01-06-2013 11:02 AM

I agree. I ordered 2, they sent me 3, and now I'm wishing I had ordered more! They walk around the tank always, like they own it! They don't pick on anyone, but they will step on the cories as if they're little stepping stones. So cool! I love them!

charlie1881 01-06-2013 03:02 PM

Hey Guys ,
I was curious about the leaf fish . The ''lfs'' here has some but they look like the ''bush'' fish in the pics on our profile , guess thats what byron was meanin bout needin the scientific name for huh . Do you have a pic or diffrent name for the leaf fish ? The store told us he was very very aggresive when we asked about him , my wife thought it was way cool and wanted one for our community tank but didnt get him after the associate said he would kill everything in our tank :-( . But now after research I think the clerk was ..lets say confused ... to be nice :-) but atleast he didnt just say yeah hes great get 5 like most do .
And the butterfly is awsome !! very cool . It says they cant handle small fish as tank mates or top dwellin fish I think that would rule him out with my guppys or would it? I know he'd eat the fry but he looked small would a guppy be big enough to be okay with him ? just asking hes so cool .

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