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Marty 12-30-2012 06:09 PM

advice for my new tank
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Hey everyone just joined the forum I have been keeping chichlids for a few months and recently bought a new bigger tank its a 180 litre juwel its great for watching the new additions i got. So at the moment me and my girlfriend have around 13 chichlids and a silver shark and some snails but basically we are really new to keeping chichlids. I have the enviroment sorted and keeping on top of things my only problem is the amount of fish we have and the fact that I would love to get more, but eventually they will grow and then its going to get difficult to keep them all happy and keep the aggression to a minimum. I'm just basically looking for some advice really on how many can I keep in this size tank without them getting too territorial and I'll put some pictures up so you can see what fish I have in the tank as I'm unsure of what they are all called also I have more photos on my profile I look forward to hearing from you....... Marty :-D

Nilet699 12-30-2012 07:40 PM

Hi Marty, i know nothing of cichlids, haha, but i do know that silver/bala sharks shouldnt be kept in anything less than a 6ft tank and bigger- 8ft + is actually preferable. They are also meant to be kept in shoals of at least 5 with more being preferable and having less will most likely result in the fish becoming aggressive.
Balas can get anything up to 14 inches btw!

Marty 12-30-2012 09:27 PM

silver shark ...
Thanks for that, I have had silver sharks for a while now and they all get along well (: I am aware of how large they get and intend of shifting them as they get bigger for that very reason... How ever I did have a companion for him but unfortunately died when he got caught between 2 rocks ): I want to get another couple but can't find any big enough to go in with my other fish.. Thanks for your advice though it's been a big help for me ! :D
Cheers Marty!

Nilet699 12-30-2012 11:47 PM

Oh, sorry to hear that you lost one like that! I've yet to lose any but had my first mini scare (prob me overreacting) last few days but he's ok now i thinks...back to normal behaviour anyway!
And yeah bigger balas seem harder to come by generally- BUT i always see them at quite a few of my LFS- in the returned stock tanks at around 4-8 thinks people got sold them with no info!!

Also, whats your substrate? White gravel? Its gleaming!

jpbotha 12-31-2012 12:22 AM

Use this site for identification of cichlids. It has nice pictures in the different catogories which makes it easy to ID.
African Cichlid Genus Gallery

It looks like you have a Livingstonii there, the one that looks like a brown and white leapord, he is an agressive cichlid from the Nimbochromis family, that prays on smaller cichlids. Could be wrong due to his juvenile colour, but are 80% certain.

Besides him, looks like most of your cichlids will get along well.

Nice setup

Marty 12-31-2012 01:46 PM

Yeah I would really like to get some more so he has some companions as he seems quite lonely might even start another tank as I have two spares and get some more or maybe keep him in this tank he has no problems in this tank he gets left alone to do his own thing

Marty 12-31-2012 01:59 PM

thanks for the link i'll check it out would be great to be able to keep track of what we have as each day it seems we are getting more and more yesterday I bought a red empress male and female the male looks awesome and has really bold colours. and as for the livingstonni I wouldnt have know unless you said as I have two and they are both young but as yet havent done anything to make me think they would be angry there are a number of smaller fish in the tank too I'll keep an eye out but the main culprits at the moment are the big orange hybrid he is in the last photo i put up is quite the dominant one and makes sure the other fish know he is in charge also the larger blue cichlid with faint black markings is quite angry at times and very territorial towards the other fish even if their bigger its quite bizarre the tank is big enough at the moment so theres the odd chase and thats as far as it goes as they normally get distracted by other fish. It works really well having different sized fish and im trying to keep colours and patterns as different as possible to minimise the fighting I'll keep an eye on the livingstonnis

P.s Nilet the substrate is a white sand something similar to Argonite but not as much of a buffer it s 1-2mm in size so doesnt get into the filters and the fish love it at the minute they are all digging in it and making big craters under the rocks and in corners for them to hang out in thanks im pretty pleased with the set up but i think im getting a bit addicted and i would really like another so i can have coral and some more varieties of fish

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