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saganco 11-06-2006 12:43 PM

Firemouth and other fish?
 
Aquazoo states: "Pairs of these fish usually get along well together. However, if the female is not ready for the male when he wants to spawn, he may kill her. She should be removed until her eggs are developed."

Has anyone else had any problems with the male being overly aggressive (to the point of physical damage anyway) with the female? Is he really physically aggressive to other tank mates to the point of damage?

Also, I have a new 65g (36x18x24) and am thinking about a mating pair of:
Firemouth, Green Terror, Blue Acara, and possibly a Nicaragua Chichlid.

Are these guys compatible with each other when bought at about the same size? Would these 6-8 fish plus some tank mates and cleaning crew be ok in my size tank? What would good tank mates be for these guys? Does the term dither always mean that they are partially intended as live dinner for the cichlids? And last, what would my choices for good maintenance crew be if these cichlids are the ones that I end up with (based largely on the feedback of you wiser folks!)?

Thanks in advance everyone,
Sharon

Daz 11-06-2006 04:01 PM

Hello saganco,

If you think your hands would be a full with a pair of FM's not wanting to mate, your later suggestion would be a nightmare. FMs are aggresive, but your suggestion of a GT in with the rest of the inhabitants FMs ncluded would be messy. In my opion all the fish listed are not really that aggresive as far a Cics go, but the tank could not facilitate the fish as they grew. Putting mating or supposedly mating Cics in with other tankmates is always going to be trouble. Out of that list I think the Acara, Nicaragua and poss the GT dependent on the teperment of the individual fish. As for a cleaning crew go for a medium size cat say a Choclate/talking cat.

xingumike 11-06-2006 04:18 PM

I had a pair of firemouths for about 2 months and the only aggresion problem i had was the female bullying the male for some unknown reason. I moved them to my girlfriends (larger) tank and the problem remained so i gave them away. I never encountered aggresion towards my dither fish during their stay in the tank.

saganco 11-06-2006 06:17 PM

What about some mating flowehorns? Would this size tank be ok for some mating FH's and some interesting tank mates? Maybe the blue acara with the flowerhorns and some "dither fish"?

Lupin 11-06-2006 08:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by saganco
What about some mating flowehorns? Would this size tank be ok for some mating FH's and some interesting tank mates? Maybe the blue acara with the flowerhorns and some "dither fish"?

I would just avoid FHs. They are not to be kept with other fish as they are extremely aggressive. The blue acara will only meet its death if kept with fish twice its size and even extremely vicious.
I'd say you keep only one FH in a 65 gallons tank and no more fish will be added. Plecs may be your best option but ensure the FH doesn't harm the plecs.

I am very familiar with the Nicaragua cichlid as I have kept them before.:wink2: Peaceful and usually grows to about 10 cm max. Can be kept with Blue Acaras in a 65 gallons tank but not with FHs and Green Terrors.


Quote:

Originally Posted by saganco
Does the term dither always mean that they are partially intended as live dinner for the cichlids?

To say "dither fish", this means you are trying to ensure a certain species which is usually timid that they are safe from any possible predators. Another meaning for this is to ensure that the spawning pair of cichlids are doing their job to defend their fry by keeping the dither fish at bay.

Thread moved to a more appropriate section.:)

saganco 11-12-2006 03:31 PM

Well I have to agree with others on this forum - the overgrown tumor look in the grown flowerhorns just doesn't work for me!

On the other hand, I found this "compatibility chart" for the blue acaras:
http://www.elmersaquarium.com/c106co...8firemouth.htm

What do you guys think? I keep reading that MORE rather than LESS cichlids is better for the aggression control. My tank is a 36x18x24 - 65g with lots of tunnels and rocks and a few potted live plants.

herna236 01-24-2007 02:56 PM

agression?
 
I had a firemouth and my jack dempsey, which was smaller than it, killed it in about 15 minutes...

Daz 01-24-2007 03:45 PM

Re: agression?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by herna236
I had a firemouth and my jack dempsey, which was smaller than it, killed it in about 15 minutes...

That must be some kind of Super Jack. What were the size's of these fish ?

saganco 01-24-2007 06:35 PM

Ok folks, thanks ever so much for the input - but I have completely changed direction and NONE of these fish are in the new plan. So mods, if you want, as far as I'm concerned, this thread can be put to bed so to speak.

Thank you all for helping me decide to go in a more peaceful direction!


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