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Dtld9 02-27-2008 11:51 AM

High Ph problem
 
The PH for my tap is around 8.2-8.4 . Is there an inexpensive way to lower this. The chemicals I use for my weekly water changes are getting kind of expensive.

fish_4_all 02-27-2008 01:07 PM

Did you test your tap water after it had sat out for 24 hours or right form the tap? It can change quit a bit.

As for ways to lower it naturally, driftwood is a good way and filtering the water over peat moss are easy choices.

The-Wolf 02-27-2008 01:31 PM

Re: High Ph problem
 
firstly
a stable pH is far better for fish than one that is in continual flux.
most fish will readily adapt to a higher pH than is found in their natural environment. Chances are if you have a high pH coming out of your tap, so does your LFS and the fish should already be accustomed to it.

secondly
your pH is ideal for African rift lake cichlids (malawis, tanganikans and victorians) maybe you could look into the challenge of keeping them.

lastly
if you really don't want to try cichlids and have to lower your pH
then as fish-4-all has stated, peat filtration is a good way to go.
however peat looses its ability to alter the pH as the tanic acids are used, so every 6-8 weeks it needs replacing.
a more permanent solution to your problem could be performing a 50% water change using RO water (invest in a RO unit or buy per/ltr from lfs)
then every water change use 50/50 RO/tapwater.
it is good pratice that one every 3rd or 4th water change you use full tap water to put back essential base elements the fish need.

if the above advise on RO seems a bit confusing, say so and I'll try and explain it in easy steps for you.

Dtld9 02-27-2008 01:50 PM

Well I dwarf puffers and the ideal for them is 7.0 Would the 8.2 be O.K for them?

The-Wolf 02-28-2008 03:20 AM

according to fishbase (the Swedish institute of ichthyology)
Carinotetraodon travancoricus has a pH range of 7.5 8.3
so yes it should be ok
http://fishbase.org/Summary/speciesS...=travancoricus

Dtld9 02-28-2008 10:53 AM

No offense Wolf but it also says they are in the high price range and an endangered species. Are you sure the pH part is accurate?

The-Wolf 02-28-2008 11:07 AM

no offence but if you read it properly you'll see it says
price category: very high; price reliability: very questionable

Dtld9 02-28-2008 02:20 PM

ok sorry didn't really get that part. I just want to make sure the info I get is accurate. This IS the internet lol.


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