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edmlfc1 02-24-2008 08:19 AM

Reworking my 160 Gallon need stocking advise.
I am moving some of my fish out. I would like to have a community tank with fish that will not cross breed. Below is my fish list the fish. I have it listed in two sections.
1) Thinking about removing.
2) Would like to keep.
I purchsed most of these at 1/2"-1" so I had to wait until I could sex them. They are now about 2"-3". I have put the arrow icon on the fish I most definately want. Any advise would be helpful. Thanks in advance.

Thinking about removing these:
2) Pseudotropheus lombardoi (kenyi) 1m/1f
1) Pseudotropheus Socolofi (blue) 1/m
3) Melanochromis Auratus (aruratus) 3/m
1) Metriaclima estherae (red zebra)
6) Giant Danios

Would like to keep these:
:arrow: 4) Labidochromis Sp. (Hongi) 1m/3 unsexed
:arrow: 4) Maylandia Greshakei (unsexed)
:arrow: 4) Nimbochromis venustus (Venustus) 1m/3f
:arrow: 5) OB (peacock) 2m/3f
:arrow: 7) Protomelas Taeniolatus (red empress) 2/f 5/fry (unknown sex)
:arrow: 2) Chocolate Pleco
:arrow: 1) Bristlenose Pleco
:arrow: 2) Clown Loach
2) White Zebra (unsexed)
2) Convicts (I know they don't belong but I liked them.) 1m/1f
2) Melanochromis Auratus (aruratus) 1/m 1/f
2) Pseudotropheus crabro (bumblee bee) 1m/1f

herefishy 02-24-2008 02:00 PM

As with most mbuna and Rift Lake cichlids in a community setting, cross breeding is prevelant and always a problem. The only way to truly prevent it is to keep a single species. But, that just deters the reason why many keep Africans. Owners want the mixture of color.

You could keep different species together until such time as they attained breeder size and sell or trade them in. I have also noticed, that keeping wild-caught or F1 fish also lowers the possibility of cross-breeding. I have no full blown scientific proof. It is just an observation made through the years. The drawbacks here are the price(even for common species) and the fact the one MUST quarantine these fish before placing them in the community.

I keep both community tanks and species tanks. I do not sell the fish from the community tanks, but do give them to friends with the understanding that they do the same.

edmlfc1 02-24-2008 03:18 PM

Not what I wanted to hear :roll: but thanks for answering my question honestly. :D Maybe I will still keep the fish I want to keep and trade the others in (for plants or more rock). I really want to thin them out a bit, now that they are growing my tank don't look so empty. I have had 2 fish spawn in the tank. One was the female empress (father unknown 25 fry) the other mother & father unknown (counted 15 fry). If I had room for about 10 more tanks I would keep them all. :D Thanks so much for your help. I am still a bit new to cichlids and trying to learn all about them.

Lupin 02-24-2008 06:11 PM

I'm going to suggest the removal of plecos and loaches from your Rift Valley tank.

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