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CinBos 11-30-2012 09:29 AM

Snails in the aquarium...
 
What would you all do if I weren't creating new threads daily?! Haha, J/K.

As you all may know I currently have my fish in the hospital tank, treating for ich. Everything is coming out nicely, and all signs of ich are gone, but I'm just keeping them in there for a few more days to be sure. Because the fish are in a seperate tank, there is no feeding going on in the 55 gallon (I know over feeding can cause a snail infestation).

Well last night, while doing a water change in the 55 Gallon (I still proceed with water changes every other day to remove the floating form of ich in the water column) I noticed a snail happily grazing across the glass. The only thing I can think of as to how it had shown up, was that it hitched a ride with some plants I got recently for the tank.

I have done some research on how to remove/eradicate/maintain the population of these snails. I immediatly placed a warm/soft piece of lettuce on the glass after the lights went out last night. I check this morning, and there were no snails on there. But I want to just make sure I do not run into this problem. My question is, are all Botia type Loaches good for getting rid of these things (not just clown and yoyo loaches)?

I have the 55 gallon, and I know they need to be schooled together but am I able to get a few smaller Botia loaches and will they do the same thing as yoyo and clown loaches? I understand they are scavengers...correct?

fish monger 11-30-2012 10:23 AM

Have read this and the loach thread. Do you know what type of snails you have ? I originally had some common pond snails that made their way in via plants and they were no problem. Didn't seem to bother the plants or get out of control population wise. I recently discovered rams horn snails. Again, brought in on plants. They have reproduced like mad and destroyed two small crypt plants in a matter of hours. I have removed as many as possible and put them in a tank with a clown loach. He scarfs them up before you seen them on the glass. Squishing them against the glass and leaving them for the fish is an option as long as you see an occasion snail or so. The lettuce method could work if given time. Just drop it out in the open. Best of luck.

Ogre44 11-30-2012 10:34 AM

I have red ramshorns in my tank, and as long as I don't overfeed the population stays well in check.
They do eat holes in the plants at times, although I've been told they only eat parts of plants that are damaged.
They did absolutely decimate the one and only sprig of watersprite I've ever been able to locate locally, it must be the gastropod equivalent of catnip.

I have also found that my panda corys really keep the population in check via the consumption of snail eggs, they seem to find them irresistible.

I would, however, caution against adding fishes to your aquarium solely to manage snails.

fish monger 11-30-2012 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Ogre44 (Post 1331831)
I have red ramshorns in my tank, and as long as I don't overfeed the population stays well in check.
They do eat holes in the plants at times, although I've been told they only eat parts of plants that are damaged.
They did absolutely decimate the one and only sprig of watersprite I've ever been able to locate locally, it must be the gastropod equivalent of catnip.

I have also found that my panda corys really keep the population in check via the consumption of snail eggs, they seem to find them irresistible.

I would, however, caution against adding fishes to your aquarium solely to manage snails.

Agree that adding fish for snail control is not a good idea.

CinBos 11-30-2012 11:08 AM

No I completely understand, as for adding fish to the aquarium, I am not going to do this, if I am able to fid assassin snails.

But in all honesty, I would actually like a few bottom dwellars to help with left over food. Now what I do not want is a fish that ends up getting a foot in length, or even 6 inches.
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Byron 11-30-2012 11:09 AM

I agree with what others have said. First question is, what type of snail? The small ones like pond snails and Malaysian Livebearing snail are harmless to plants. The ramshorn is also generally said to be harmless to healthy plants, though one or two members have reported otherwise.

I have MLS and pond snails, and I don't mind them. The MLS can multiply a lot, agreed, and this seems to have no bearing on your feeding. I have one tank from which I remove some of them at each water change, but in the others I let them go.

Snails are a part of a healthy aquarium. They get everywhere (places you can't) and they eat everything organic--dead plant leaves, dead fish, uneaten fish food, fish waste, and even some algae. They break this down into smaller units that the various bacteria can more easily and quickly handle, so they are important on many fronts.

I absolutely agree, never buy a fish just to eradicate snails. This is adding to the tank's bioload, and it may cause other issues as many of these fish have specific requirements or traits that can disrupt the tank.

Byron.

Geomancer 11-30-2012 12:00 PM

I had MTS and pond snails. Then I got ich, and I just treated the entire 125g tank with copper safe. That killed all the pond snails and a lot of MTS ... but the MTS hung on.

That's perfect for me. I don't much like pond snails, but the MTS I do like. I can tell there are hundreds, if not thousands in the tank, but I can only ever find a few, they burrow in the sand. It's more obvious first thing in the morning as the sand has snail tracks everywhere.

I can always see dozens of baby snails in my moss.

Stoke88 11-30-2012 03:07 PM

I too just brought home a couple of snails on my new Amazon Swords. I'm unsure of what kind they are but I hope they don't get out of hand in the future. I've seen a snail eliminating treatment at Petsmart before but never really looked at it in depth. Perhaps this could solve your over abundance of snails?

Byron 11-30-2012 04:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Stoke88 (Post 1332080)
I too just brought home a couple of snails on my new Amazon Swords. I'm unsure of what kind they are but I hope they don't get out of hand in the future. I've seen a snail eliminating treatment at Petsmart before but never really looked at it in depth. Perhaps this could solve your over abundance of snails?

Never use those chemicals to kill off snails. Fish are impacted to varying degrees. Bacteria I'm not sure of. Plants can also be affected.

Stoke88 11-30-2012 05:01 PM

I didn't think that would be a good option. Obviously there's something in the chemical to kill snails so I'm sure it wouldn't be healthy for the fish either. Wouldn't all the dead snails at once pose another problem?
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