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finnfinnfriend 11-27-2012 09:45 PM

Angelfish?
 
Is it okay to keep one by itself? Is a 20 gallon tall enough for one? Can they adapt to a higher ph over time, or does a ph altering product need to be used? They eat cichlid food, right?

djembekah 11-27-2012 10:07 PM

how long is a 20 high? my angels like their swimming space, and i wish they had more

finnfinnfriend 11-27-2012 10:09 PM

a 20 high is 24L x 12w x 16h (inches)

Ogre44 11-27-2012 10:58 PM

I do recall reading that they can get up to 10 inches tall, and 8 inches long.
With substrate that would leave a fully grown angel with 4 inches of vertical room, in a space only 1.5 times as wide as he is long, and only 3 times as long.
Might be kind of cramped.

finnfinnfriend 11-27-2012 11:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Ogre44 (Post 1328942)
I do recall reading that they can get up to 10 inches tall, and 8 inches long.
With substrate that would leave a fully grown angel with 4 inches of vertical room, in a space only 1.5 times as wide as he is long, and only 3 times as long.
Might be kind of cramped.

That does sound pretty cramped...What about a 29 gallon? 30" x 12" X 18"

Ogre44 11-27-2012 11:16 PM

I'd check out the profiles, Angels are under the Cichlid heading.
A quick read says a minimum group of 5 is advised, and recommends a 4 foot or longer tank.

finnfinnfriend 11-27-2012 11:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Ogre44 (Post 1328972)
I'd check out the profiles, Angels are under the Cichlid heading.
A quick read says a minimum group of 5 is advised, and recommends a 4 foot or longer tank.

Oh okay. Well I heard a single is okay but if you want more than one you should get a group of 5 or more. Kind of like female betta fish.

I definitely agree that a 20 gallon tall isn't big enough though....Those angels get huge!

djembekah 11-27-2012 11:52 PM

wait wait wait. Scalare angels do NOT get that big lol


i dont even think altum angelfish get that big. maybe you're mixing freshwater angelsfish up with saltwater angels


oh hmm. i guess scalares CAN get that big. i do have a mated pair in my 29 gallon though.

Byron 11-28-2012 04:18 PM

As this is a shoaling fish by nature, it should be kept in a small group, as someone mentioned and as it spells out in the profile [click Pterophyllum scalare]. A mated breeding pair in their own space (and here a 30g would work) is a different matter. A lone fish might get stressed; nature programs fish to specific habitats and environment and my thinking is they will always be in better health if those requirements are met.

Byron.

1077 11-29-2012 07:20 AM

Lady at work kept a lone Angelfish in 29 gal tank (I ended up caring for the fish) for nearly five year's.
I changed the water twice a week for she grossly overfed the tank.
Can't say the fish was lonely,,but it did little but hover just off the substrate ,only moving when it was fed, or when I changed the water.
The 29 gal looked small for this fish which from nose to base of tail, was approx five inches and from top of dorasl fin, to bottom of pectoral fins, was nearly eight inches.
One Angelfish in 29 gal would in my view work,but be rather boring tank compared to community tank with shoal (s) of smaller species.


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