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bf2king 02-21-2008 01:09 AM

Would Eco-Complete African Cichlid Sand...
Would Eco-Complete African Cichlid Sand be good for my tank? its the tank listed below. also is $35 is a good deal for this substrate?

herefishy 02-21-2008 02:40 AM

pH might get too high for some of those fish. You have alot of "softies" on your list.

bf2king 02-21-2008 09:22 AM

thats the problem with haveing unique fish but i cant seem to accept that the "normal" fish are just as good lol

any sujestions on a sand substrate i could possibly use?

herefishy 02-21-2008 09:45 AM

Many are using play sand. I don't care for the light color though. Fish seem to feel more at ease with darker substrates.

okiemavis 02-21-2008 12:00 PM

I just put play sand in my new 85 gallon, and I have to say, I love it. Plus, at $4 for 50 lbs, it really can't be beat! My tank's going to be very heavily planted, so I'm not that worried about the light color, as most of it won't be visible. There are two things that make me worry about using such a fine sand: the sand compacting around the roots of my plants, and 'evil air bubbles of death' (as some might call it). I've decided to combat both by adding lotsa malasian trumpet snails, so hopefully it won't be a problem.

bf2king 02-21-2008 12:52 PM

i would like a darker substrate so would these work for my tank?

just the gravel in my tank is about 10 years old and is anoyingly hard to syphon... i mean blood worms and brine shrimp sink right through it out of the reach of my fish... not even the suply of feeder ghost shrimp i keep in the tank can get at it and it anoys me...

sry for my rant :oops:

okiemavis 02-21-2008 01:56 PM

I like the look of the Eco-Complete because it doesn't change the pH. I've also heard REALLY good things about own substrate- it's dark (if you click the picture, you can see more), it's on sale cuz it's new, and they give free shipping.

The Tahitian Moon sand is really pretty- been drooling over it since I first saw it. I have no idea how good it is though, and it does change the pH of the water.

bf2king 02-21-2008 02:28 PM

well i keep my pH at 7 because its tolerated or prefered by most fish. if it lowers pH thats not to bad but if it raises it i could have problems.

im just looking for a darker substrate thats easier to clean then gravel... sry for pestering but i HATE gravel... i think its the amount of frozen foods i feed my fish and if they wouldnt sink into the gravel i could feed less and have less mess... idk i could be searching hopelessly or i could not be.

also im on a budget so $50 is alittle to much for now.

icom 02-22-2008 09:09 PM

That Aquariumplants substrate looks good,thats probably what I'm going to end up using in my 55 just because I cant afford $160 or so for eco or Flourite Black Sand.
Another option would be Soilmaster Select or Turface ( if you look at pics,it is the exact same as the AquariumPlants substrate) for around $14 for 50# if you have a Lesco nearby or distributer.I don't have one close by ..some Landscaping places or nurseries may have it too,although its main use is baseball fields and golf courses.

I posted a Q about the AP stuff look here:

I dont know if you can see the pics posted or not without registering,but heres a close-up of the AP and Turface...looks the same to me..

Holly 02-23-2008 06:06 PM

Go to a landscaping supply yard or a rock yard. My lfs sells slate rock for the tank at $3.99 a supply yard had it for $0.06 a pound. Huge differance for the broke person who wants a nice tank. Check it out later tonight under pics, you'll get an idea of the slate I got for $0.78!!! LOL

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