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cjz96 11-21-2012 02:05 PM

Please help me with my cycle
 
Sunday, the 18th I set up a 55 gallon with eco compete substrate. BEFORE I added ANY ammonia source, the water tests came back as:
Ammonia: 0ppm
Nitrite: 0ppm
Nitrate: 10ppm
I have been adding food everyday since Sunday. Today, I tested the water and it came back as:
Ammonia: 0ppm
Nitrite: 0ppm
Nitrate: 20-40ppm
Could my tank have already cycled? I was preparing to wait 6-8 weeks. lol. Could it have been the eco complete that cycled the tank? It claims to already contain bacteria for cycling. Thanks.

Thoth 11-21-2012 05:31 PM

I am not familiar with the product you used but I am leaning towards the tank is not cycled. I would test again and see what you get... Test the tap water as well.

Nitrifying bacteria can not survive drying out and there are also multiple spices with varying water chemistry requirements. Buying bacteria and introducing in your tank is no guarantee that the bacteria will survive the conditions of your local water/tank.

Tracy Bird 11-21-2012 07:03 PM

I would add enough ammonia source to receive an ammonia reading and then see if I had nitrite and nitrate readings.

I would do this when I knew I would be home to test the water throughout the day and to see if the cycle was actually in place.

Pretty great if your tank did cycle in 3 days due to the substrate....

Let us know.

Reefing Madness 11-21-2012 07:06 PM

Your tank has not cycled. Throw a dead shrimp in there if you want an Ammonia source.

Byron 11-21-2012 07:19 PM

I assume you intend live plants, hence the Eco-Complete substrate material, so plant the tank. Do NOT add ammonia of any sort. Faster growing plants (floating plants are ideal for this) are best. Once it is planted, add your first (few) fish. There will be no discernable cycle. Nothing could be simpler.:-)

CarribSea does claim there is bacteria in E-C. I can't say there is, but that would explain your nitrates. Unless of course you have nitrates in the source water. Have you tested the tap water for ammonia, nitrite and nitrate?

Byron.

cjz96 11-21-2012 07:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Thoth (Post 1320474)
I am not familiar with the product you used but I am leaning towards the tank is not cycled. I would test again and see what you get... Test the tap water as well.

Nitrifying bacteria can not survive drying out and there are also multiple spices with varying water chemistry requirements. Buying bacteria and introducing in your tank is no guarantee that the bacteria will survive the conditions of your local water/tank.

That, I do know. It was just a substrate that contained bacteria to help cycling. Not to cycle. My tap water doesn't contain any nitrates. I took another test today and got the same results. I haven't added any more ammonia. Should I add more or do a water change and try to start over?

Byron 11-21-2012 07:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cjz96 (Post 1320665)
That, I do know. It was just a substrate that contained bacteria to help cycling. Not to cycle. My tap water doesn't contain any nitrates. I took another test today and got the same results. I haven't added any more ammonia. Should I add more or do a water change and try to start over?

We posted almost simultaneously. As there are no nitrates in the tap water, fine. Previous advice holds, plant the tank and away you go. But yes, do some major water changes to get rid of the ammonia, that might cause trouble.

cjz96 11-21-2012 07:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Byron (Post 1320664)
I assume you intend live plants, hence the Eco-Complete substrate material, so plant the tank. Do NOT add ammonia of any sort. Faster growing plants (floating plants are ideal for this) are best. Once it is planted, add your first (few) fish. There will be no discernable cycle. Nothing could be simpler.:-)

CarribSea does claim there is bacteria in E-C. I can't say there is, but that would explain your nitrates. Unless of course you have nitrates in the source water. Have you tested the tap water for ammonia, nitrite and nitrate?

Byron.

Just read this. Thank you! My tap water does not contain any nitrates. I have already added plants. Duckweed has also been added. Will I be able to put my first set of fish in? 7 panda corydoras?

Byron 11-21-2012 07:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cjz96 (Post 1320672)
Just read this. Thank you! My tap water does not contain any nitrates. I have already added plants. Duckweed has also been added. Will I be able to put my first set of fish in? 7 panda corydoras?

Yes on fish, but I would not make corys the first. They are especially sensitive to unstable water, and while it is not going to be the nitrification cycle there is some unstableness in every aquarium until the biology is established, which is usually 2-3 months.

What other fish are you intending? What plants (aside from floating Duckweed, which BTW is ideal for new tanks)?

Byron.

cjz96 11-21-2012 08:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Byron (Post 1320688)
Yes on fish, but I would not make corys the first. They are especially sensitive to unstable water, and while it is not going to be the nitrification cycle there is some unstableness in every aquarium until the biology is established, which is usually 2-3 months.

What other fish are you intending? What plants (aside from floating Duckweed, which BTW is ideal for new tanks)?

Byron.

It was a mini community combined with my female betta sorrority. I was hoping corys, tetras, and possibly harlequin rasboras. The plants are: Wisteria, foxtail, micro swords, hairgrass, java fern, java moss, and duckweed. I just picked up and switched to the API Master Test Kit and nitrates are apparently in my water. What should I do?


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