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pdaddie 11-06-2012 05:28 PM

Cichlids surfacing
 
Hi all,

This is my first post and also my first tank. We admittedly ventured in cichlids somewhat misguided. wanting lots of colour and some variation in size we started with tetras and were sold 7 cichlids.

The lucky tetras that werent eaten were rescued and replaced by more cichlids :)

Have had the 50G tank for about 2 months now but in the last week or so, a few of the Cichlids have began to surface for air but only in the late evening. They seem fine all day but my Fiance's constant mentioning of it now has me worried.

Have completed a water check - everything normal

Really green behind the ears so would really appreciate some opinions / Feedback

P.S We love our cichlids

SeaHorse 11-06-2012 07:51 PM

Welcome pdaddie and future wife. We're glad you joined us.
Since you said you are new to fish and tanks I'm going to ask you to clarify what " my water is normal" means. What are your readings for Ammonia, NitrItes and NitrAtes? Do you know your PH & GH? What size tank?
What temperature and what filter are you using?
Live or plastic plants? Drift wood or rocks?
Can you also post a picture for us?

Lets start there and see what we can learn.

nicolaas 11-07-2012 05:05 AM

Hi and welcome to TFK.

Do you know the type of cichlids you have?

I think there is not enough oxegen in the water.

pdaddie 11-07-2012 05:08 AM

Hi and thanks for your reply

GH 180
KH 180
PH 7.0
NO2 0
NO3 40

Tank is FLuval 190L (50G) Corner tank

Filter is Aqua One CF1200
Temp is 26
Using live plants and Natural Rock
http://www.fishtanks.net/fishtank.php?fishtank=6239

pdaddie 11-07-2012 05:09 AM

Hi and thanks for your reply

GH 180
KH 180
PH 7.0
NO2 0
NO3 40

Tank is FLuval 190L (50G) Corner tank

Filter is Aqua One CF1200
Temp is 26
Using live plants and Natural Rock

50G Aquarium - 190 gallon Freshwater fish tank

pdaddie 11-07-2012 05:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nicolaas (Post 1301427)
Hi and welcome to TFK.

Do you know the type of cichlids you have?

I think there is not enough oxegen in the water.


3 x Black widow Tetra
7 x Cherry Barb (2 male)
2 x Red Claw Crab
1 x Pleco
3 x Convicts
2 x Yellow Labs
2 x Strawberry Peacock
15 assorted Mbuna

Tazman 11-07-2012 07:44 AM

Hate to say it but are way overstocked.

Lake Malawi cichlids do not do well with other species such as the tetra and barbs. Also you are mixing mbuna and peacocks which is not a good idea either. Peacocks are very sedate compared to the more active mbuna, the mbuna will stress them out, causing them potential health issues and not allowing them to fully color up.

Can you post a clearer picture of your tank?, as looking at the picture in your profile I suspect one of the assorted cichlids is a Venustus which when adult is totally unsuitable for your tank, they get too big at 10".

I also suspect that the Oxygen content in the water may perhaps be low. Bubblers do not really serve a purpose in Oxygen exchange, the break of the surface of the water from the filter will do this.

There is also a possibility of aggression, fish will sometimes do what you describe if being bullied, it is a way of staying away from their aggressor. Much aggression in tanks is un-noticed by us but can have a detrimental effect on fish health.

To make this tank successful, could you provide some clearer pictures, so we can identify the other assorted fish and make suggestions as to how to correctly stock it.

BE WARNED though, some fish are going to have to go as you are way overstocked for a corner tank. Sorry to say :-(

SeaHorse 11-07-2012 07:50 AM

I'm not sure about the mix of fish...

N03 should be maintained at around 5-20ppm. I recommend a water change to lower your reading of 40.
Hope this helps.

pop 11-07-2012 09:39 AM

I have a quarter circle aquarium and have you noticed a visual enhancement to objects in the tank. At first I thought my senses failed me everything looked magnified. The fish look giant and colorful, but I know they are small (they only have been with me for a few months )same thing with the rocks.
My tank is way over-stocked. Size is about 50 gal
Four angle fish
Three gourami
Three giant danios
Three cory cats
One pleco

Thatís fourteen fish or a little over three gallons of water per fish; I am more comfortable with five gallons per fish so I need to reduce four fish. I guess the giant danio and pleco have to go.

I have not observed any overt aggression between angle fish and gourami

pop

pdaddie 11-07-2012 07:28 PM

Ok so thanks for the Advice
Water change has been done a few hours ago.
Unfortunately they are still surfacing! :(
Now i'm fearing the worst!
How do i chose who needs to go? i have created an album with each species included (i think) so would appreciate some help with the identifying !
My original wish was to have a few fish with maybe 1 BIG spectacular looking fish as a main focal point

http://www.tropicalfishkeeping.com/m...rst-pics-4786/


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