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Jim642 11-06-2012 02:14 PM

Can i use 2 filters
 
Have 38 gall tank with aqua-clear 70. have exta Fluval c-3 will it help if i put it on with the 70. Thanks Jim

AbbeysDad 11-06-2012 02:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Jim642 (Post 1300627)
Have 38 gall tank with aqua-clear 70. have exta Fluval c-3 will it help if i put it on with the 70. Thanks Jim

You 'could' but your AC70 is already more filter than you should really need, assuming you have the right media in there.
Good filtration/purification is not about pumping more water around, but finely filtering the water with media and products to remove impurities. And the best 'filtration' is actually the weekly water change to remove polluted water and dilute the rest.

Why do you think you need more filtration?

fish monger 11-06-2012 02:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Jim642 (Post 1300627)
Have 38 gall tank with aqua-clear 70. have exta Fluval c-3 will it help if i put it on with the 70. Thanks Jim

Agree with AD. You need to get another tank for the other filter;-)

Jim642 11-06-2012 03:25 PM

Was thinking more is better. Thanks for your help will sure take it. Use media that came with it change according to instructions . Guy at pet co said that was filter i needed the 70. Well now i can get a 20 gallon for the Fluval c-3 Thank you.

pop 11-07-2012 06:36 AM

Salutations said the smiling cat:

You all are so amazing just the idea of filters competing with each other is so insightful. I would naturally think about cooperation. I learn something here everyday.

I have two filters in my aquarium a 305 fluval and a ten gallon under gravel filter. I added the under gravel filter just for ole school comfort of seeing the bubbles rise. It never occurred to me the under ground filter would work and compete with the canister.

Can I keep both filter in operation without injury to the inhabitants?? I really enjoy watching the bubbles go up
pop

AbbeysDad 11-07-2012 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by pop (Post 1301448)
Can I keep both filter in operation without injury to the inhabitants?? I really enjoy watching the bubbles go up

Hey Pop - I too am old school. Under Gravel Filters (UGF) are economic and can be great bio-filters... but do so with some risk. A lot of waste material, including uneaten food, gets pulled down under and decomposes. This can result in a real nitrate producing mess if the gravel isn't routinely vacuumed (gravel siphon) to keep clean. Additionally, if there was to be a power failure or a problem with the air pump, anaerobic heterotrophic bacteria can produce a foul mess with some nasty gases.

I used UGF's in the past, but don't anymore. I find that sand is a much better substrate than gravel because all of the detritus/mulm stays on the surface where it slowly decays or is easily removed during weekly water changes. And there's never any uneaten food that gets away from the stock.

You can continue to use the UGF - you have to unless you tear the tank down as you can't just stop the air/water movement w/o risk.

If you just want bubbles, go with a bubble bar - they look really cool, especially when one whole side of an aquarium has a bubble wall.

1077 11-07-2012 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by AbbeysDad (Post 1300643)
You 'could' but your AC70 is already more filter than you should really need, assuming you have the right media in there.
Good filtration/purification is not about pumping more water around, but finely filtering the water with media and products to remove impurities. And the best 'filtration' is actually the weekly water change to remove polluted water and dilute the rest.

Why do you think you need more filtration?

Agree with Abby's dad regarding the AC70 for roughly 35 gal tank.
But finely filtering the water, only work's well for small tropical's and would not be the way forward with large waste producing fish, or heavily stocked tank's (been there ,done it).
Is near impossible to over filter a tank, but easy to underfilter.

AbbeysDad 11-07-2012 08:02 PM

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Originally Posted by 1077 (Post 1301720)
Is near impossible to over filter a tank, but easy to underfilter.

I guess it depends on exactly how we define filtration...but we'd need another thread for the great debate.


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