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ashjaye 02-05-2008 11:43 PM

VICIOUS Pakistani Loach
For christmas my boyfriend got me an aquarium and a red tailed shark. We asked the sales person what fish would go well with the shark and he showed me a very pretty fish so we bought it. At first everything was fine but about a month later I noticed the unidentified fish seemed to be attacking my shark. I thought that I was probably wrong because the salesperson said that the fish was peaceful...thinking someone who owns an aquarium store would know what they were talking about.
The next day my shark was bleeding from its gills and around its fins, and died soon there after.
I have done research since and found that this fish is a Pakistani Loach. Everything I have read about them says they are peaceful fish and that Barbs would be fine to put with them, especially since barbs tend to nip back. I tried several tiger barbs but lo and behold they were okay before bed and when i woke up..dead. He also killed my pleco which he had been buddy buddy with for the first few weeks!

Is what I have TRUELY a Pakistani Loach or is there something more vicious that looks like a pakistani loach?? Is there anything i can put in with him? I have a 30 gallon tank and hate to only have ONE fish!!!!

Lupin 02-06-2008 12:26 AM

Do you have pictures of your loach? I have doubts on that. What size is the fish? I have 18 Botia almorhae along with several other loaches, synos, severums, etc and never noticed any aggression. Just as a note, loaches are sociable fish which means they should be kept in a minimum number of three. They should not be deprived of their companions otherwise they do tend to wreak havoc in the community though this does not mean every individual fish will be like that if deprived of what they really want. Each fish has its own personality. Now on your subject, what size is the tank? If you wish to keep three, a 40g would be the absolute minimum for plenty of space otherwise choose even smaller loaches such as the Pangios.

There are other fish far worse than the Botia almorhae. Yasuhikotakia morleti, Yasuhikotakia modesta, Yasuhikotakia eos and all loaches of Syncrossus genus to name a few are very aggressive fish and regardless of their number, they do not make suitable community fish having the ability to rip through the community and harassing the tankmates to death.

Again, I truly doubt a yoyo loach would ever do such disaster but there is no knowing unless you can show us some pictures of the fish. I have never heard of a yoyo loach capable of that much disaster though again, each fish has a personality different and unique from the others.

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okiemavis 02-06-2008 11:22 AM

One other thought (although unlikely and I'm probably wrong), what are you feeding it? A lot of fish stores sell bottom feeders claiming they will be fine feeding entirely off the algae, but most tanks, especially new, really don't have enough algae, and loaches aren't algae eaters. His diet should be a mixture of sinking pellets, both algae wafers and meaty ones (I use shrimp pellets made for corys), as loaches aren't completely vegetarian. Is it possible he is just really really hungry?

Photos would be great, so we can identify him.

ashjaye 02-06-2008 10:32 PM

I feed him both algae wafers and regular fish flakes, I have both so I put a few of each in and they all seem to get eaten! I will try something meaty and a picture may take awhile...or at least until the next trip to the grocery store to buy AA batteries!

ashjaye 02-06-2008 10:37 PM

This fish is about 2-2.5 inches...he seems so little!!!! he is thin and long, almost worm like, but not eel like.

Lupin 02-06-2008 10:40 PM


Originally Posted by ashjaye
This fish is about 2-2.5 inches...he seems so little!!!! he is thin and long, almost worm like, but not eel like.

Sounds too skinny for a yoyo loach.:question:

ashjaye 02-06-2008 11:03 PM

I researched online the other types of loaches and he looks EXACTLY like a ladder loach. Thank you for your help, and I will be getting him some friends as soon as possible!

adamf1126 02-07-2008 06:14 PM

Botia Almorhae can be agressive and pick on other fish when kept alone.
Try getting some more of the same species to spread out the aggression

ashjaye 02-18-2008 01:40 AM

Thanks for the advice everyone! I ended up taking my fish to a local aquarium store (where the people are far more knowledgable than the people at petsmart where i bought my original fish)
They said he was a Botia Kubotai. I found three more and some harlequin rasboras to finish out my tank. Eventually I will need a much bigger tank but for now they are all small. The "vicious" loach is MUCH happier and he and his fellow friends find every nook and cranny to squeeze themselves in to...they make me laugh!

ashjaye 02-18-2008 01:54 AM

Ps they also knock over every single decoration i have with their one has been hurt and I just tipped everything over so that it was safe...again they make me laugh with their crazy antics!

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