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doki 09-30-2012 05:48 PM

Fresh Start, 20 Gallon Long planted. TO GET LIST...
 
I'm going to start a new tank, Planted with soil and gravel 20 gallon long and this is to help me get the right things so I don't get a repeat of what happened with my other tank.

So far on my list:
Flourite
MiracleGro Organic
20 Gallon Long
Flourish Comprehensive
Flourish Root Tabs
API Liquid Carbon

I have a Zoo-Med 24 inch double t5HO light and I know the tank is going to be 3ft so the edges won't get that much light, I'm fine with that I'll have to DIY maybe use plexiglass to hold the light. The bulbs I have are 2 pink/purple 5000k each t5's I'm gonna get natural white lights this time unless someone states otherwise... What would be a better choice? pink bulbs or natural daylight? should both be 5000K?

Preparation and Maintenance of a Planted Aquarium

I want to start by growing a carpet plant as the foreground and in this link theres a method called the Emerged Method thats what I'm gonna be doing.

This site is really helpful too: Aquarium Tools | The Aquarium Toolbox

If anyone has anything to add please do.

Freshcatch 09-30-2012 08:38 PM

Just keep us posted on how your project is coming. It sounds like you are well on your way!

Thoth 10-01-2012 11:48 PM

I have never done a full planted tank before and this is the first time that I have heard of people using potting soil as a substrate in a aquarium tank; have not read the entire article you linked. The MiracleGro Organic has chicken litter in it, which I would think would cause some major problems for a tank. Why not just buy peat moss, which is the main ingredient along with composted bark mulch, and skip the major nitrogen source (poultry litter)?

Just a thought..

madyotto 10-02-2012 12:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Thoth (Post 1262929)
I have never done a full planted tank before and this is the first time that I have heard of people using potting soil as a substrate in a aquarium tank; have not read the entire article you linked. The MiracleGro Organic has chicken litter in it, which I would think would cause some major problems for a tank. Why not just buy peat moss, which is the main ingredient along with composted bark mulch, and skip the major nitrogen source (poultry litter)?

Just a thought..

i second this i myself have nearly 1.5 inch of aquatic peat under my gravel
it serves two purposes one to lower the ph and two is of corse aid plant growth

for starters potting soil has metals in it that you do not want your fish to breath
nitrogen is in potting soil also not good in any amounts
DO NOT USE POTTING OR ANY OTHER SOIL OR FERTILIZER

find a good aquatic/organic peat and use that have barely any at the front and about an inch at the back

not only will it lower the ph but also it's a good fertilizer
if you can't find aquatic peat then use something like pond compost
and then cover with your gravel

doki 10-02-2012 01:05 AM

Thanks for the heads up on that soil, will any of the lfs PETSMART or PETCO have peat moss?

madyotto 10-02-2012 10:30 AM

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Originally Posted by doki (Post 1262995)
Thanks for the heads up on that soil, will any of the lfs PETSMART or PETCO have peat moss?

this would depend on your location and size of store

i would go with natural untreated peat as previously stated about an inch across the back half of the tank banking it towards the front so that the front 3 inches of the tank has none this will help to make your PH stable and is excellent for plant growth

however i will say this is hard to find and you will have to trawl the net to find it i had problems in finding it but its so worth it your LFS may stock it i'm out in the sticks in the UK so don't have very big stores

if you fail to find the much desired peat you can go for an alternative of aquatic pond compost that your LFS will more than likely stock

doki 10-05-2012 04:12 PM

I tried doing some research about using peat moss as a substrate instead of soil and all I have found was negative results, I think it would be better to stick with soil, Just have to make sure I know what exactly is in it.

madyotto 10-06-2012 08:56 PM

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Originally Posted by doki (Post 1266484)
I tried doing some research about using peat moss as a substrate instead of soil and all I have found was negative results, I think it would be better to stick with soil, Just have to make sure I know what exactly is in it.

like i say peat moss is not natural untreated peat

USE POND COMPOST !!!!!! you know what is in that :D

doki 10-15-2012 02:21 AM

Okay so I've decided I'm going to use pond compost, I have the 20 long sitting in my room and I'm picking up the stand tuesday. I'm off on thursday so I will be getting the pond compost on that day I also have some red clay I'm planning on putting below the substrate. Is there anything else I can throw in there that may benefit my tank like something that has Calcium or pretty much anything that will help, I was thinking of putting in a little crushed coral for the calc but that might raise my Ph, Is it okay to put a little bit?

I just want to gather up info on anything I can put in that's gonna benefit my tank before I finally set it up and its too late.

madyotto 10-15-2012 05:25 AM

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Originally Posted by doki (Post 1275686)
Okay so I've decided I'm going to use pond compost, I have the 20 long sitting in my room and I'm picking up the stand tuesday. I'm off on thursday so I will be getting the pond compost on that day I also have some red clay I'm planning on putting below the substrate. Is there anything else I can throw in there that may benefit my tank like something that has Calcium or pretty much anything that will help, I was thinking of putting in a little crushed coral for the calc but that might raise my Ph, Is it okay to put a little bit?

I just want to gather up info on anything I can put in that's gonna benefit my tank before I finally set it up and its too late.

most aquatic gravel has calcium in it


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