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twinkey 09-15-2012 07:05 PM

cleansed the rocks(what?)
 
Think im having issues with my fishless cycle..my nitites been up going on 4 weeks..thinking it might have started over...some one mentioned for to cleansed the rocks...i just have gravel and decor..what would he be talking about

Blackfeet 09-17-2012 09:03 AM

No idea what he is talking about. Have you added stress zyme or anything like it? You say fishless if so where are the nitrates coming from? It could be from your water source, test and find out

AbbeysDad 09-17-2012 10:29 AM

I forget, how are you furnishing ammonia?
So are you saying ammonia is being converted to nitrites, but nitrites are increasing and you are not yet seeing an increase in nitrates???

If so, this can take awhile. You need to keep nitrites low with water changes to allow nitrobacter to develop as nitrites are very toxic and can prevent the bacteria from developing.

Cleaning rocks makes no sense to me.

twinkey 09-18-2012 08:09 PM

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Originally Posted by AbbeysDad (Post 1246469)
I forget, how are you furnishing ammonia?
So are you saying ammonia is being converted to nitrites, but nitrites are increasing and you are not yet seeing an increase in nitrates???

If so, this can take awhile. You need to keep nitrites low with water changes to allow nitrobacter to develop as nitrites are very toxic and can prevent the bacteria from developing.

Cleaning rocks makes no sense to me.


i got lost on cleanesed rocks to...i been adding ammonia(ace)...my nitrates are at 90ppm

AbbeysDad 09-19-2012 06:10 PM

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Originally Posted by twinkey (Post 1248214)
i got lost on cleanesed rocks to...i been adding ammonia(ace)...my nitrates are at 90ppm

What are your nitrites?
With nitrates that high, it appears that things are cooking, but you definitely need to do some water changes to get your nitrates down. You want those as low as possible, but definitely below 20ppm (with 5-10 being better).

Hanky 09-19-2012 07:13 PM

Please clarify and verify your nitrites and nitrates for us,

twinkey 09-19-2012 07:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Hanky (Post 1249225)
Please clarify and verify your nitrites and nitrates for us,


my nitrite is at 2.0ppm nitrate is at 80ppm

here another issue also...before i started my cycle..i test my tap water for all test these were the readings

ph....7.6(let the water sit 24hrs with a bubble stone in it)to gas it out
ammonia....0ppm
nitrite.......0ppm
nitrate......0ppm

my ph is droping like crazy..like down to 6.0..what is causing my ph to drop

Blackfeet 09-19-2012 07:30 PM

Pardon my ignorance here as I have never done a fishless cycle, I always used feeder goldfish.
What do you add to cycle the tank? Ammonia? As in household cleaner ammonia?

Tazman 09-19-2012 07:40 PM

Pure ammonia that most hardware stores sell provided it DOES NOT foam when shaken.

This is all you need to start the cycle, dose it to around 4ppm and the bacteria will start to grow.

This method is by far one of the safest to use, as you are not putting fish through unnecessary stress from highly toxic ammonia and Nitrites.

It nearly always create more bacteria that you can hope to get from even a cycled filter pad or other cycled media from an established tank.

You can read up more here http://www.tropicalfishkeeping.com/f...m-cycle-38617/

Blackfeet 09-21-2012 01:50 AM

Ty for the explanation, that sounds easier. My wife likes goldfish and argues with me when it is time to give them back to the store or find them a new home


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