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kim68048 09-03-2012 02:21 AM

German Ram bloated w/ thick white scales
 
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Hi!
I have 4 German Blue Rams that I purchased about a week ago. Still trying to figure out who is male vs. female. One of them that I think is male has been very inactive.....he just sits in the plants and faces the back of the tank. It looks somewhat bloated to me, very pale, and tonight he seems to have some thick, white scales. I don't think it is ICH. I have attached a picture but I apologize for the poor quality. Any thoughts about what might be going on with him/her?

GwenInNM 09-03-2012 08:32 PM

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Originally Posted by kim68048 (Post 1226117)
Hi!
I have 4 German Blue Rams that I purchased about a week ago. Still trying to figure out who is male vs. female. One of them that I think is male has been very inactive.....he just sits in the plants and faces the back of the tank. It looks somewhat bloated to me, very pale, and tonight he seems to have some thick, white scales. I don't think it is ICH. I have attached a picture but I apologize for the poor quality. Any thoughts about what might be going on with him/her?

THat looks strange. Possibly parasites? I'd start first with melfix, as it's so safe and may help. If it is parasites, you should buy Prazipro. Very safe and you'll need that when your treating German Rams for parasites. Make sure you are keeping them in good water quality,and your water is on the soft side with low ph.

Best of luck

Gwen

kim68048 09-03-2012 08:56 PM

Another forum said looks like bloat. Think it could be?

GwenInNM 09-05-2012 06:38 AM

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Originally Posted by kim68048 (Post 1227588)
Another forum said looks like bloat. Think it could be?

Bloat could be a good possibility. Don't know how to treat that. Hope someone else chimes in to help you. How is he doing?

Gwen

kim68048 09-05-2012 08:35 PM

He seems a little better. Has a little color back. I quarantined him last night and did a dose of Metronidazole. He looks a little less bloated but that could be wishful thinking on my part : )
Thanks!!

GwenInNM 09-07-2012 09:41 PM

How is your little guy? I had German Rams. They spawned a few times and the fry never made it past a week or so (parents ate them). I do think they are difficult to keep. After my male killed the female, I tried putting a female Gourami in with him. With only 2 days of stress for my ram, as the female Gourami did chased him, (I took the Gourami) the Ram came down with hole in head disease. I didn't treat it as well as I could/should have, and I lost him.

So frustrating. So, my tank became a brackish tank for a single Green spotted puffer. I still see pictures of my German rams and miss them :( Pretty fish, but not easy to keep.

I hope your guy pulls through.

Gwen

kim68048 09-07-2012 11:21 PM

Hi Gwen!
Lost the ram last night :BIGweepy:
My other 3 rams seem to be doing really well though. Thanks for asking! I plan on doing a GSP in the next few months as well. How is it working out for you?
Kim


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Originally Posted by GwenInNM (Post 1233863)
How is your little guy? I had German Rams. They spawned a few times and the fry never made it past a week or so (parents ate them). I do think they are difficult to keep. After my male killed the female, I tried putting a female Gourami in with him. With only 2 days of stress for my ram, as the female Gourami did chased him, (I took the Gourami) the Ram came down with hole in head disease. I didn't treat it as well as I could/should have, and I lost him.

So frustrating. So, my tank became a brackish tank for a single Green spotted puffer. I still see pictures of my German rams and miss them :( Pretty fish, but not easy to keep.

I hope your guy pulls through.

Gwen


GwenInNM 09-08-2012 07:39 AM

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Originally Posted by kim68048 (Post 1233977)
Hi Gwen!
Lost the ram last night :BIGweepy:
My other 3 rams seem to be doing really well though. Thanks for asking! I plan on doing a GSP in the next few months as well. How is it working out for you?
Kim

I'm sorry for your loss. :cry: I'm glad the others are well. Check into if green peas (you do take the shell off) would help with bloat, just for future info. I do remember mine would eat them and they are good for them. Help with constipation. If you can understand what causes bloat, you can prevent it hopefully.

As far as the GSP, he's doing very well. Do your research though. I can see why they aren't for everyone. You are so limited on what you can put with them (basically nothing) :) I just bought a used tank yesterday (68 gallons) to upgrade him too. Sadly, it has a great hood for a reef tank, and my husband dropped it, carrying it in, and all but one of the expensive bulbs broke. :evil: GSP's need space to prevent stunting, and many people put them in full marine, as doing a fish with live rock only is cheaper (salt wise) than just brackish. With marine there is some equipment too, like a skimmer, which I still don't have. I'm still not sure I'm going full marine, but time will tell. They are very cute, and "friendly". I buy him a variety of frozen foods, like clams, prawns, squid and they need snails for their teeth. I love my FW planted tank, but I think I really do enjoy this little guy most.

Gwen


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