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scubadiverbill 09-02-2012 05:15 PM

Are my fish compatible?!? I believe so, but need expert help
Hey guys,

So I am in love with the palmas bichir and the elephant nose fish, however I do not want just those fish. These are the fish I am also planning on getting. Are they all compatible?

P.S. I have a 55g with two biowheel filters and two powerheads.

- Palmas Bichir (1)
- Elephant Nose Fish (1)
- Gold Sexfasciatus Cichlid (1)
- Giant Danio (4)
- Marble Veil Angelfish (2))
- Red Peacock Cichlid (1)
- Blue Peacock Cichlid (1)

Olympia 09-02-2012 05:20 PM

I have no idea about the cichilds, I'll let someone else tackle that.

Palmas bichir, he will be a little crowded in that tank.

Giant danio, aim for 6.

Elephant nose fish. This is a very difficult fish. I would not get a lone specimen, but 55 gallons is too small for a group. They should be kept in no smaller than groups of 5 in tanks of 75 gallons+.
These fish are famous for never eating in captivity. Many of them starve. If you are truly interested in this fish, I suggest you get a larger tank, and start growing cultures of live foods (daphnia, and various worms), for often times even frozen food isn't good enough for them.
If you wish to go forward with this fish, best of luck, as even experienced keepers have trouble keeping them alive. . .

scubadiverbill 09-02-2012 05:29 PM

Oh really?? Darn! I guess I'm going to have to reconsider. Is there any other advice? Mainly about the elephant nose fish? I just recently upgraded to a 55 because all other forums and sites said a 55 is more than enough for one. They also said they are better alone unless with 5 or more. Is that true?
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Olympia 09-02-2012 05:35 PM

Honestly it's a huge debate whether or not they do fine on their own. I suppose one could live in a 55 gallon.
The thing is that this fish lives in small groups in the wild, which is why I feel they should live in groups in tanks. But you can't just get 2-3 because the weaker one could get picked on, being in a group spreads any fights out over several fish.

Is your tank empty right now?

Some fish to consider for your tank size include African knife fish, and Leopard Ctenopoma (click the highlighted name to go to our profile on them). There's more, but those are just two favourites that come to mind.

scubadiverbill 09-02-2012 05:40 PM

Okay that makes sense. Maybe I will not get the cichlids considering they are from different areas, and replace them with your suggested fish. I will try the elephant nose fish and if it doesn't work out I will definitely learn from my mistake. Thanks so much!
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Olympia 09-02-2012 05:45 PM

Be sure to get sand.
And do not keep the elephant nose and African knife in the same tank, these fish both navigate by sending out electric currents and funky stuff could happen when their signals interfere.

scubadiverbill 09-02-2012 05:48 PM

I already have sand so that part is all set. Okay so I will be sure not to get the knife fish as well. That's strange because my local aquarium has African knifefish with elephant nose fish with bichirs all together. Its my favorite tank there.
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Olympia 09-02-2012 06:11 PM

I think it's fine in larger tanks (and the wild, haha), but in a smaller aquarium I wouldn't try it.

Be sure to have your live food cultures established before getting the fish! And feeding him in the dark is always helpful. I'd get the elephant nose first so you can work with it before adding more fish.

scubadiverbill 09-02-2012 06:19 PM

Okay thanks again for all the advice! Helped a lot!!
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Olympia 09-02-2012 06:21 PM

No problem. :-)

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