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angsnyder 08-30-2012 10:48 AM

My severums laid eggs...
 
I have 2 severums, 2 red jewels, 2 noen jewels, 2 parrot fish, an angel, and three bolivian rams as well as several other non-cichlid fish.
One of my severums laid eggs, so I assumed that the over severum was male until the next day when she also laid eggs. Could one of the other cichlids fertilized the eggs? Also one batch of eggs turned white and the other has remained a tan/opaque color, which (if either) is normal?

fish monger 08-30-2012 05:36 PM

I would say that the white batch has fungus and is not viable. Beyond that, I can't really comment.

3ndler3nvy 08-31-2012 03:10 PM

Sounds like your girls are confused! When the eggs turn white, that means they have fungus growing in them. There's a very good chance both batches of eggs will go bad shorty. I usually just leave the eggs alone and let the parents eat them. You can remove them if you'd like but you might get bitten.

sidluckman 08-31-2012 05:12 PM

I had a great pair of Severums spawning in one tank, and a lone female Festivum decided to set up shop and lay eggs in the same area. I was hoping the eggs would not get cross fertilized! As fate would have it, the local loricarid ate the Festivum eggs, so we will never know what might have been. . .Yes: Cichlids can interbreed and the results are in nearly every fish store: red parrots, which are purportedly a severum/red devil cross.

The non-white eggs may hatch, may not, may produce fry that die soon, may result in the next BIG THING. It's anyone's guess. But since I am the one guessing, I would imagine that the eggs are worthless and will not result in viable offspring.

I envy you! Severums are an incredible fish. A peaceful and dignified cichlid if ever there was. I hope you can acquire a true pair. The cooperation between the breeding parents is remarkable. One guards and lets the other eat, then they swap places. It is a beautiful thing to behold!

3ndler3nvy 08-31-2012 05:52 PM

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Originally Posted by sidluckman (Post 1221890)
I had a great pair of Severums spawning in one tank, and a lone female Festivum decided to set up shop and lay eggs in the same area. I was hoping the eggs would not get cross fertilized! As fate would have it, the local loricarid ate the Festivum eggs, so we will never know what might have been. . .Yes: Cichlids can interbreed and the results are in nearly every fish store: red parrots, which are purportedly a severum/red devil cross.

The non-white eggs may hatch, may not, may produce fry that die soon, may result in the next BIG THING. It's anyone's guess. But since I am the one guessing, I would imagine that the eggs are worthless and will not result in viable offspring.

I envy you! Severums are an incredible fish. A peaceful and dignified cichlid if ever there was. I hope you can acquire a true pair. The cooperation between the breeding parents is remarkable. One guards and lets the other eat, then they swap places. It is a beautiful thing to behold!

None of the fish in his tank are capable of crossing with a Severum.

I have a Green Severum that I enjoy very much :)

fish monger 08-31-2012 06:04 PM

Forgive me here because I've done no research; however, I think I read that severums are one of the possible species involved in the parrot creation. Would it be possible for the parrots and severums to have bred and made a viable batch ? Just sayin...

sidluckman 08-31-2012 06:22 PM

I agree that nothing seems sufficiently related to the severum to result in live fry. Why some spawn remain clear and un-fungused is causing me to wonder. It is just a matter of time before they fungus, is it possible for fertilization to take place, despite the fact that the fry will not live?

Fishmonger: you are correct, both (at least) are new world cichlids of comparable structure. I don't think Red parrots produce live fry. Could be wrong. Could the parrot have fertilized the spawn of a severum? Would that result in a one quarter parrot or a three quarter severum?

It gets very "Island of Dr Moreau" when you mix and match species like this.

Let's get out the DNA test kit and find out!!!!

3ndler3nvy 08-31-2012 06:25 PM

Male Blood Parrots are Sterile. So they will not be crossing with a female Severum. I've had eggs take several days to fungus over.

sidluckman 08-31-2012 06:33 PM

3ndler3nvy: you aren't kidding about getting bitten! I had a BlackBelt that actually drew blood! (it looked like a teeny tiny pinch) but it did bleed. He was quite incensed that I stole his 1000 or so babies and fed them to a bunch of haplochromines.

Thanks for answering my Blood parrot question.

3ndler3nvy 08-31-2012 06:55 PM

I've got a pair of Blood Parrots that attempt to breed every few weeks. They haven't caught on to the fact that it isn't going happen.


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