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MiamiLeos 08-19-2012 12:15 PM

Thinking about purchasing this... opinions?
 
Hey guys, I still havent gotten my tank. I'm looking at this one now. It's currently fresh, would it be difficult to convert to saltwater? What do you guys think about the contents and the price? Your thoughts are greatly appreciated, oh wise experts :-)

46 gallon bowfront fish tank aquarium

sidluckman 08-19-2012 12:44 PM

I would suggest a protein skimmer, of course, and perhaps a couple propeller pumps for increased circulation. I would definitely use a good amount 50-75# of live rock. Since i don't know your plans for stocking this tank (fish only, mini reef) I won't say more than this.

My concern is whether equipment like a protein skimmer can be accomodated by the hood of this tank. . .Check that out with the seller before buying. Ask for pictures of the top of the aquarium and the hood, and anything else that isn't clear to you at this point.

MiamiLeos 08-19-2012 12:49 PM

I would like to have a mini reef. I was thinking that the protein skimmer, filter, and possibly a sump could go in the cabinet below the tank. The tank currently has two on-back filters. Correct me if I'm wrong but I dont think those would suffice for a saltwater reef system.

The guy has come down to $200

sidluckman 08-19-2012 01:15 PM

You are probably correct there. I wouldn't do a reef with these filters alone. Is the tank equipped with over- flows or will you have to put one in as well? That's another pretty large piece of equipment. But then your skimmer could be "downstairs." Even better.

I would also ask the guy to shoot some close-ups of the front glass to make sure it's not a scuffed up mess. I just think it would be a drag to invest in all the other equipment if, at the end, it looks like you've just set up a badly worn tank. I just don't want to see you get screwed over, and I am perennially mistrustful of people hawking stuff on craig's list.

I don't know what the potential is for retro-fitting the lighting, or whether the T-5 is adequate for a decent selection of corals. Another thing to consider. . .

Reefing Madness 08-19-2012 01:19 PM

$200, go fo it man. Mechanical filters are not used in SW tanks. Don't need them but maybe to run GFO or Carbon or ChemiPure Elite.
Sump under the tank would be a huge benefit for you.
#1-Dry Rock, there are a few hitchhikers on Live Rock that people want to stay away from, so they opt for using Dry Rock, or Dead Rock. Macro Rock is a good place to start looking for that. Either way you go you will need a minimum of 1lb per gallon.
#2-Replacement filter media like filter floss and activated carbon (if you get a filter) Which is really not necessary.
#3-Multiple Power heads (2 or 3) 10x your water volume for just a Fish Only With Live Rock, and at least 20x your water volume for a Reef Tank. So lets say your going reef, and you have a 100g tank, you would need flow in that tank at minimum of 2000gph, or 2 1000gph power heads.
#4-Protein Skimmer, rated at 2 times your water volume
#5-Saltwater Test Kits. Reef Test Kit. Test for Ammonia, Nitrites, Nitrates, PH, Phosphates, Calcium, ALK and Magnesium.
#6-Saltwater fish food. Mysis Shrimp, Squid, Cyclopease, Algae Sheets, Romaine . Flake food is not really a good food to feed your marine fish.
#7-Aquarium vacuum. This one is iffy. Most don't use one, if you have enough flow in the tank you won’t need one
#8-Rubber kitchen gloves
#9-Fish net
#10-Two, clean, never used before, 5-gallon buckets
#11-Aquarium thermometer, digital being the best.
#12-Brush with plastic bristles (old tooth brush) - needed for cleaning the live rock if you don't get Fully Cured Live Rock.
#13-Power Strip, possibly GFCI outlets by the tank.
#14-Optional but definitely recommend getting a Reverse Osmosis or RO/Deionization filter for the make-up water, and a barrel for storing the water.
#15-Possibly a Quarantine Tank for your new fish. They sit in here for a few weeks to kill off parasites and bacteria, to keep it from getting in your main tank
#16-Heater rated for your size tank.
#17-Saltwater Mix. Marine Salt. Instant Ocean is the cheap Salt that beginners and Advanced use alike.
#18-Saltwater Hydrometer or even better a Refractometer, which is more accurate. There is also a Digital Meter that is way advanced if you have the cash.
#19-Aquarium filter (not absolutely necessary if running with adequate amounts of live rock, but nice to have if you need to use a mechanical filter or activated carbon, or GFO and such)
#20-Aquarium substrate such as live sand or crushed coral. Some go bare Bottom, others choose the 2-3" bottom, others, more advanced will try the Deep Sand Bed, which is over 6" deep.

sidluckman 08-19-2012 01:43 PM

That's a great post. Honestly. You should publish that or they should use it as a resource on this forum in general.

I used about half and half dry and live rock, but I understand that the risks are more dire to a reef versus FOWLR system should certain critters stow-away.

Got forbid you should hear that horrid clicking sound in the middle of the night. . .

Reefing Madness 08-19-2012 02:48 PM

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Originally Posted by sidluckman (Post 1205496)
That's a great post. Honestly. You should publish that or they should use it as a resource on this forum in general.

I used about half and half dry and live rock, but I understand that the risks are more dire to a reef versus FOWLR system should certain critters stow-away.

Got forbid you should hear that horrid clicking sound in the middle of the night. . .

I hear ya there, clicking from the tank in the middle of the night would bring a shiver to my spine.

wake49 08-19-2012 03:49 PM

What do you plan on doing with the livestock he is selling with the tank? Not many stores will just take fish that weren't bought there as not to risk infection...

I ran a 46 bow reef and pretty much used a list like reefingmadness suggested. I used a CPR self-starting overflow box. I ran it through a twenty high sump that I made myself. There I ran a coralife super-skimmer (could've used a better skimmer than this).

Reefing Madness 08-19-2012 04:06 PM

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What do you plan on doing with the livestock he is selling with the tank? Not many stores will just take fish that weren't bought there as not to risk infection...

I ran a 46 bow reef and pretty much used a list like reefingmadness suggested. I used a CPR self-starting overflow box. I ran it through a twenty high sump that I made myself. There I ran a coralife super-skimmer (could've used a better skimmer than this).

Ah, but Coralife Skimmer can be made to run excellent:
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92smokeaccord 08-19-2012 04:12 PM

id jump on it! the light alone is worth about $200.


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