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Flannery 08-12-2012 03:48 PM

So discouraged!
 
I've posted my problem on a different aquarium forum and two people responded and were not helpful!

This is what I posted there:
I've had my 15 gallon tank for a few years. If I had known as much as I know now when I started out, I would've gotten a far bigger tank. Up until recently, I was only changing a couple gallons a week (but it was sometimes more like every two weeks) and vacuumed the gravel. That's only a little more than a ten percent water change. It's no wonder my poor fish are sick.
I originally had four gold barbs and two platies in there. And yes, I know now that that is overstocked, which is probably why my fish started dying. I think the problem started because I didn't know anything about water quality and gave my fish bare Ro water, which apparently has no minerals or whatever fish need to thrive. So the fish never grew from the juvenile state. And that was ok, I thought. They were still well rounded and acted normal besides being small. But, in recent months, I started mixing ro water with our well water.
But then a few months ago, one by one, the fish would start to get emaciated, the body lines became bent and they took to hiding. They had normal appetites, but no amount of feeding did anything.
And the other day I bought a tropical fish book by David B. and he said 50% water changes! I can't imagine how horrible their water must be! So yesterday I changed about 50%. And no, I don't have a ammonia, nitrate, nitrite test kit. I really feel very stupid about all this. I put off getting a test kit because it was "too expensive", but all these problems are going to cost way more, if only in stress!
Right now I'm down to two gold barbs and one platy. One gold barb looks really bad: emaciated, shredded fins, bent, and sitting on the bottom. I would be surprised if he lasts the day.
But now I'm really worried, because if they do have TB, I could have it, right? I garden a lot, so my hands often have little cuts and scratches, and I've never used gloves when I do stuff with the tank.
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then this:
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For some reason, I can't get my computer to upload my photos. But my last gold barb looks like this.
and this:




I just read something interesting on another fish forum: something called "Skinny disease"? not actually a disease, just something to call it when the fish has parasites and other factors leading to anorexia and death. Can someone please help?
Do you have recommendations for worming treatment? I bought some aquarium salt yesterday and put the recommended amount in the tank.
I went on vacation and just got back a couple days ago and now I'm down to just the platy. He still looks ok, except his dorsal fin edge is a little ragged and he's hiding. I made a big water change today and plan on doing another one in a couple days. I went to walmart and looked at the fish tests but all they had were the dinky test strips which I heard are notorious for not being accurate. As soon as I have the funds I'm going to petco or petsmart and getting a real kit.
Everything I've read on TB matches with what my fish had/have. I bought a pair or gloves for myself to use when I do maintenance, but if it is tb, I'm really discouraged about fish keeping. It seems so sad that I would have to start all over, back to square one.

Really all the two members said was "don't worry, Tb is really rare". . . NOT HELPFUL

Flannery 08-12-2012 03:51 PM

http://i1116.photobucket.com/albums/.../IMG_01511.jpg

That's what my barbs looked like before they expired.

Pearl2011 08-12-2012 04:00 PM

About the TB, I wouldn't stress about it too much. Assuming you dont have a really weak immune system, then your probably good. There are so few reported cases, but just wash up to you elbow after. I do that and I'm TB free LOLZ. I would research the chance of getting it. I believe fish TB appears in the form of a rash. One of my goldfish (I was in the same situation of you last year) got all the signs of TB, so when me and my BFF told my Mom that she got so worried. Neither of us got sick, so I wouldn't worry about it too much.

What was the other forum? Was it plantedtank.net?

Flannery 08-13-2012 01:00 PM

It was aquariacentral.com I'm still hoping somebody on there will give me some useful info!
What it all boils down to is I need to know what my fish have, even if it's not Tb. (And I'm really hoping it's not!)

jaysee 08-13-2012 01:16 PM

Fish TB infecting humans is very rare. Like was said, unless you have an immune deficiency, you really don't have to worry. Yes, it manifests as a rash that does not go away. It usually shows up around a cut or something. I work on a fishing boat and always have cuts on my hands, and I've never had a problem. Skinny disease/TB is something I've come across many times, though it's not something I've ever cured. Now, I don't even bother trying.

dramaqueen 08-13-2012 03:20 PM

I'm so sorry about the loss of your fish. I hope you'll be able to figure out what is going on.

Flannery 08-14-2012 09:41 PM

Someone on the other site posted some pics and said they really thought it was worms. I really do too, because worms would appear to be more easily eradicated than Tb! Does anyone have suggestions for what kind of wormer I can get. . .brand name or drug name?

jaysee 08-14-2012 09:48 PM

levamisole. I think you can get it on aquabid. If I recall correctly, it's not cheap.

Flannery 08-15-2012 07:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jaysee (Post 1199930)
If I recall correctly, it's not cheap.

Of course!

Is there any kind of med I can get in a store, like petco or petsmart? those are really the only fish store around me and I don't buy stuff online.

TomGarrod 08-15-2012 07:47 PM

I had angels who got the internal parasite, i just wacked the temp up to 84 Degrees Over time if ur lucky the worms will drop out and burn up, in my case 3 died 1 survived.

In all honesty if ur fish look too far gone, help them on there way, clean out ur tank completly and start again, sounds horrible but its humane.


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