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ALS2000 01-20-2008 03:54 AM

newtank. sick barbs. what to do?
Hi all,

got my first tank. 25G. overstocked 9 tiger barbs (1/2 inch each). 2 rtbs (gonna get rid of 1). and 2 small plecos. tank is only 2 weeks. just learned of cycling. barbs are losing color and swimming funny. have been doing 30% water changes every couple of days. ammonia is still high 0.75. and nitrite is good. anything else I can do? barbs in rough shape now. sharks and plecos ok. i have used cycle, aquaplus, and sea salt. what more can i do to prevent death of the barbs? thanks for any suggestions.


willow 01-20-2008 06:46 AM

hello and welcome aboard.
do you know anyone who has a tropical tank,
if you do,as if they can help by maybe lending you some
filter media from their tank,or even your local pet store,
the fish are reacting to the toxins in the water,you can try to do
larger water changes,making sure that you add the dechlorinater.
keep that up,and hopefully they will make it,
try the larger water changes,and let us know if it makes a difference.

herefishy 01-20-2008 11:28 AM

The tank is obviously not cycled. Ammonia, even the smallest amount, is deadly. Daily water changes are a must now that you've started. maybe as much as 75%, I would start with 25% daily.

Sorry to be the bearer of bad news, but I would be surprised if any of your fish make it through the cycling of the tank. Patience is the key word. It can takes a tank anywhere from 2-8 weeks to cycle. Best of luck.

ALS2000 01-20-2008 02:30 PM

thanks. I will do the water changes everyday. btw, how do i know when the tank is finished cycling? I have lost 1 barb overnight. and another was stuck on the filter this morning. I got him off and he is now swimming around again. I turned the filter flow down. any chemicals I can add to make the process faster? I have already used alot of CYCLE. anything else? thanks.

jeaninel 01-20-2008 02:58 PM

Your cycle will be done when you have 0 ammonia, 0 nitrites and some reading for nitrates. Do you have a liquid test kit for ammonia, nitrites and nitrate? Test your water every day or every other day and keep up the water changes.

Cycle is a waste of money. If you can find it you might try Bio-Spira. Not all LFS carry it but if they do it should be refrigerated. I've not tried it before but I've heard good things about it. It's basically beneficial bacteria in a bottle and will help to speed up the cycle.

Here's a sticky on cycling.

Good luck!

willow 01-20-2008 05:11 PM

do you know anyone with a fish tank ?

ALS2000 01-20-2008 09:30 PM

yes, i know someone with a fishtank. I'm going over there tonight to borrow some rocks and a plant. Hope it helps. I have lost 3 tiger barbs now. and the other ones don't look good.

okiemavis 01-21-2008 02:40 PM

If you can find someone with a sponge filter (pet stores often use these), squeeze that out into a bag and put that into your tank. That's what I used to cycle my tank and it worked *very* well, even though I started off with an overstocked un-cycled tank, I didn't loose any of the fish.

Best of luck!

ALS2000 01-21-2008 05:24 PM

Almost all my barbs are gone. I have 2 left that I put in a cup overnight and they seem to be doing better in conditioned tap water than in the tank. I put the used rocks and plant in the tank. did a 25% water change and now my nitrite is at 0.3 and ammonia is still about 0.75. I am considering putting the barbs back in.

willow 01-21-2008 05:39 PM

the barbs are only doing ok because it is clean water,
as soon as the toxins build up they will be back in the same
situation,sorry to say.
did your friend not offer any filter media at all ?
that would have been such a help,it really would !!
i don't hold out much if any hope for the last of the barbs,
again sorry to say,keep up with big water changes to dilute
the amonia and the rest.

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