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love_my_fish 10-28-2006 08:36 PM

New eggs in aquarium -- angelfish?
 
I was in the process of installing a new filter in my tank; I have a sponge filter running as well.

I discovered one of my angels hanging around a particular strand of Val grass -- and a closer look revealed eggs! :shock: I will post a pic as soon as I can. I had these before as well -- are they truly angelfish eggs? And what can I do to raise babies? I do not have a separate tank, except a 5.5 gallon with baby platies. I have a small in tank baby tank that I got long ago for platies. What are the odds of successfully raising these? How do I know if they have even been fertilized?

love_my_fish 10-28-2006 08:47 PM

Here's some poor pics--

with flash:

http://www.fishforum.com/userpix/240_angele_1.jpg


without flash:

http://www.fishforum.com/userpix/240_angelegg_1.jpg

Other fish in tank are tetras, cories and bn plecos, and I know these aren't bn eggs

love_my_fish 10-28-2006 11:01 PM

These must be angelfish eggs -- the angels have taken turns "guarding" --- first the 'little' one (in the pics) and now recently the 'big' one.

Yeah, I don't name my fish -- they're all called "That One". I thought male/female angelfish would be similar in size -- is it common that the male is larger? Am I correct in assuming the male is the larger? The smaller has a more triangular face, and the bigger has a more rounded forehead, if you can call it that :)

And I was worried that they were picking on each other!

bettababy 10-28-2006 11:15 PM

Those do indeed look like angelfish eggs.
Angelfish are not the easiest fish to breed/raise, and with a tank full of other fish, I would expect the fry to get eaten if the adults manage to guard the eggs long enough for them to hatch.
Sexing angelfish is also not easy. The only way I know of to be sure is by looking at the anal opening, one is very round, the other is more oval in shape. I forget which is which... I'll have to look that up or consult one of my angel breeder friends for positive ID on which is male/female.
Most successful breeders of angelfish will remove the eggs and relocate them to a fry tank... some will simply remove the adults and put them back into a main tank once the eggs are laid in a breeding tank.
Don't be surprised if you wake up some morning and the eggs are gone. Adult are also known for eating their own eggs.
To determine if they are fertilized, watch them for any color change or fungal growth on the eggs. To successfully hatch and raise angelfish fry, the water params have to be very good, and stable, along with temperature. Once hatched, feeding can also be tricky because of their size. Newly hatched live brine shrimp is the only thing I've ever heard of anyone having success with for fry food with angels.
Good Luck with them and keep us posted.

Lupin 10-29-2006 01:31 AM

Males have vents with tip that is pointed in shape and pointing backward whereas females have round tip on their vents.
I now noted the sexes of my pair of golden angels after they spawned last Sept 29. Unfortunately, as Dawn mentioned previously, they ate the eggs an hour later. It will need lots of practice before they finally get to hatch the eggs successfully. But I doubt the chances if they are in the community.

Some people have angels spawning and unfortunately, found out later on that they are both females hence the reason why several spawnings remain unsuccessful or at least all eggs turning white.

love_my_fish 10-29-2006 05:32 AM

I cannot see any difference in their vents.... the eggs are ALL gone! Last time they did this, the eggs were around for 3-4 days. I thought the snails got em last time.

So maybe they are both female. :oops: I wouldn't feel as bad then

Jet 10-29-2006 06:36 AM

They look like small fish, so they're young yet. :) They might start to get it right in time, but as other posters have said, you're always going to struggle to raise a brood with other fish there.


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