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Aoibhell 07-27-2012 09:16 AM

Help! My African Dwarf Frog & Oto are in a Deathlock!
 
(See pics below)

They both seem to be alive.. I suspect that the oto has sucked onto the frog's mouth- either to save himself from being eaten or to try to take the frog out. I can't separate them. I've tried squirting water onto the frog's face, taking them out for a minute to see if the oto would release, and holding them under the filter outflow to try to agitate them enough to release them. No luck. Currently, I have the light out and am leaving them be, but I really want to save at least one of them.

Please help!

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Chesh 07-27-2012 10:10 AM

OH MY GOODNESS!!! http://i677.photobucket.com/albums/v..._surpris01.gif I posted your link onto the ADF thread in the hopes someone there can help. . . I don't know WHAT to tell you. . . what a disaster!
Have you tried feeding the Otto's fave food?

Aoibhell 07-27-2012 10:34 AM

I tried giving them bloodworms but neither budged. I suspect the oto is dead.

Aoibhell 07-27-2012 10:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chesherca (Post 1173681)
OH MY GOODNESS!!! http://i677.photobucket.com/albums/v..._surpris01.gif I posted your link onto the ADF thread in the hopes someone there can help. . .

Forgive my newbness, but where is the ADF thread?

Chesh 07-27-2012 10:38 AM

Posted there already, nobody from there but me is on, and I have no idea what to tell you. . . I also posted on another forum I belong to, haven't heard back yet...

and it's here. . .
http://www.tropicalfishkeeping.com/b...df-care-84033/

Chesh 07-27-2012 10:40 AM

Gah! If the otto is dead. . . that's even WORSE! I really don't know ANYTHING about Ottos. . . I suppose he'll lose his suction eventually? This really is a terrible predicament! Leaving the lights off is the only thing I can come up with, too - but if the Otto is dead, there isn't much of a chance he'll calm down and release suction. The problem isn't with the FROG. The poor little guy just prolly accidentally chomped him thinking he was food. . . mine accidentally chomp each-other all the time, and just release. I'm thinking you were right, the otto instinctively 'fought back' and now is stuck. . .

If he's dead, I imagine he *must* lose suction at some point? Just make sure the frog stays near the surface so he can breathe. . .

Snappyarcher 07-27-2012 11:05 AM

Just gently squeeze the otto form its middle.... that should make it release.

Varkolak 07-27-2012 11:15 AM

Pin the frogs jaw like its a catfish and just pull the oto out

Romad 07-27-2012 12:03 PM

Yikes!! :shock: I'd try to gently remove the Oto at this point. Poor lil guy.

Aoibhell 07-27-2012 12:05 PM

UPDATE:

Both the oto and the frog are very much alive.. I think the frog is just tired of fighting. I tried holding them upside down, with the oto halfway out of the water to try to coax the oto, but no luck. So now i'm working with 2 live guys.

If I squeeze the oto, will it kill him?

I thought maybe if I dropped them in a cup of cold water, it might shock them and oto might let go... what do you think?


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