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MKSII 12-26-2007 02:25 PM

Tall plants?
Looking for tall plants that would work well as a background plant for a 210 gallon aquarium (29 inch high). I know some plants get really "bushy", but also looking for thinner plants as well. Any suggestions

fish_4_all 12-26-2007 04:28 PM

Vallisneria, Aponogeton, Blyxa, Crinum, Cyperus helferi, Hairgrass and others will grow tall and slender for a good backdrop. Many of them will also get very thick if you have high light and a plant them close.

MKSII 12-26-2007 04:53 PM

Thanks. Really like the looks of the Vallisneria. That's one of the ones I really was thinking about planting right against the rear glass. This one pic is what sold it to me.

fish_4_all 12-26-2007 05:18 PM

Just remember they will get very tall and can start to shadow themselves quickly. A taller tnak will help prevent this but if they get too tall and start to bend at the top simply trim them back. It doesn't seem to hurt them and when I had them it even got them to grow thicker and branch off through the roots.

herefishy 12-26-2007 07:50 PM

Giant val does look good in a tall tank as does the giant Amazon sward plant. I have a 180g with both. A little aquascaping in th middle and aquascaping across th front and BAM your done. People will think you had a pro in the house.

MKSII 12-26-2007 08:51 PM

I plan on having some driftwood, a couple rocks, black substrate in there too. As for plants, other than the val's, definitely will have anubias and java ferns, and a couple swords too, although haven't decided on what type. Also thinking of some grasses, some short and other tall. Any ideas are welcome. I have been trying to surf the web looking at different set-ups.

fish_4_all 12-26-2007 11:42 PM

I am curious now, how big is your tank? I think a really big sword, Maybe a Red Melon Sword with Medium vals around the back half of it and the taller vals into the corners would look awesome. I tried this with Corkscrew Vals around my Anubias Nana but my little 10 gallon didn't lend itself to the massive growth from the Vals. They hid the Anubias within a couple weeks and it looked really bad.

Are you gonna try any type of foreground/groundcover for the front?

MKSII 12-26-2007 11:50 PM

The tank I plan on getting (maybe by this weekend too :D ) is a 210 gallon, 72 x 24 x 29. It will be non-overflow, filter will be the Eheim Pro 3 thermo filter, and the light will either be from coralife or current.

As for plants and aquascaping, looking into one of the brackish pkgs. I doubt I will use all the plants (thinking the larger pkg for a better choice I want to use), and will give them away with my 75 gallon tank I have now.

Here is what I am looking at

fish_4_all 12-27-2007 12:34 AM

Nice package, I don't know if you really need to get anything more than the first one though as the most of them will multiply quickly and you will have more than you know what to do with in short order. The only ones that might not would be the anubias, bananas, Bacopa, Cabomba and Temple plants but they will also multiply quickly if they take off quickly. But that depends on how fast you want to make a true Aquascape, let it grow in or plant it.

THIS site will give you some lighting ideas. Extreme and high light would likely almost require CO2 injection, anything below may not but it never hurts.

You gonna do a plant substrate? Eco Complete or something similar?

As for the 75, if I lived close enough it would be gone as soon as it was empty. ;)

MKSII 12-27-2007 01:00 AM

Funny you ask about the substrate, seeing I was about to ask a question about that :lol: Anyways, I was looking at Seachem Flourite Black, Volcanit, or Eco complete. I need to make sure it is a gravel, and stays a gravel. The reason for this is being that I have a power gravel vacuum, at it cannot handle sand, only gravel.

I prefer black, but that volcanit looks nice.

As for the tank, I am not "giving" it away, yet letting it go for CHEAP!!! Stand, tank, live plants, 2 turbo CO2, CO2 refills, penguin filter, extra filter cart., Coralife light, etc, plus throwing in the 28 gl bowfront. Taking the first $300. Have to get rid of them once I get the 210. Wife's rule. I get to keep the 10 gl because I keep the crayfish/crabs in there (puffer food), but will be moving it underneath the in the stand of the 210.

Here are a couple pics - there are more plants than in the pic now.

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