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vinoth1465 12-19-2007 05:57 PM

help with old sump
 
i recently got this sump with 210 gallon tank... i plan to use it for freshwater fish tank... i dont know much about the sumps... will the broken inlet pipe affect anything... can i leave it in there... i cant get it out... its stuck in there...
http://fishforum.com/userpix/3411_DSC01375_1.jpg
also, it is very dirty inside... and sealed off... i cant reach in there to clean it... any idea how i can clean the inside...

fish_4_all 12-19-2007 10:48 PM

Well with a sealed unit it is gonna be tough. My only thought would be to use OxyClean with hot water and hope it does the job.

I have never seen a sump quite like that, no way to put any media in the sump, nothing to do any mechanical filtering. Very odd, I would almost think it was used as a trickle filter but that would be a total guess one my part.

It does look like you might be able to remove the PVC pipe and replace them with new ones because of the rubber gaskets around them.

Now that I look at it again, maybe it was a fluidized bed filter like a pool filter. The pipes have the slots in the that would force the water through the sand or whatever media was in there. But again, just another guess.

MattD 12-20-2007 12:05 AM

Hmm, looks like a primitive canister filter, but with no compartments or anything similar.

vinoth1465 12-20-2007 12:45 AM

my bad... really sorry... here is a better view...

its AGA model 4 sump... came with the tank...

also included were mag 12 pump, blue bio balls...

http://fishforum.com/userpix/3411_DSC01376_1.jpg

fish_4_all 12-20-2007 01:56 AM

That's better, lol. Now it looks like a sump.

Check to see if the pipes will come out form the rubber boots. I think they will with a little elbow grease. As for cleaning it, I think that one of those scrub brushes that are flexible will reach up there to get it clean. Most likely with nothing more than some hot water.

SKAustin 12-20-2007 04:43 AM

If the hot water alone doesn't work, try soaking it for a few hours in a 50/50 mix of water and vinegar. That should loosen up anything encrusted to the inside.

vinoth1465 12-20-2007 11:23 AM

i tried soaking it in hotwater... but no luck... i will try removing the pipes and see if vinegar and water works...

fish_4_all 12-20-2007 11:43 AM

I think that the Oxyclean would take the scum off but I don't know how much oyu owuld have to rinse it to get al the chemicals from it out. I know it removed coffee stains like they are nothing from a coffee pot but that is easy to rinse and clean out. Might be a different story for something that is going to need to be almost chemical free for the beneficial bacteria.

Any thought Austin?

vinoth1465 12-20-2007 12:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fish_4_all
I think that the Oxyclean would take the scum off but I don't know how much oyu owuld have to rinse it to get al the chemicals from it out. I know it removed coffee stains like they are nothing from a coffee pot but that is easy to rinse and clean out. Might be a different story for something that is going to need to be almost chemical free for the beneficial bacteria.

Any thought Austin?

i was thinking of Oxyclean or something like that, but i am very afraid that it will leave a residue on the sump...

SKAustin 12-20-2007 01:43 PM

I'm not sure what Oxyclean contains, but I wouldn't use any chemical cleaners. Bleach can be used so long as what ever was cleaned with it is allowed to dry completely. Bleach leaves no trace once it's evaporated completely. Vinegar will loosen up most gunk, I use it to clean the coraline from my power heads, and have even used it to loosen stubborn urine stains in toilets.

Basically, in my tanks, If it cant be cleaned with water, bleach, vinegar, or scraed with a razor blade, it ain't worth cleaning.


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