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ellespencer 05-11-2012 04:40 PM

preg molly or poorly male please help?!
 
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is this a pregnant female or a poorly male? i bought this molly about 5-6 weeks ago and i am a little worried. The man in the shop said he thoght it was pregnant as it was a little bloated. On closer inspection it looks like a male due to the pointed anal fin (also thought it could be a female that had had its fins chewed a bit.) its scales also seem a bit weird they stick out round its belly and are a bit discoloured. i will attach some pics. thanks guys.

Misomie 05-11-2012 07:40 PM

I don't know much about livebearers, but it could be sick. :/

The protruding scales is often a sign of internal parasites. They eyes, they seem a little pop-like to me... Do the eyes look like they want to pop out of its head? (if so your fish is definately sick)

txO4 05-11-2012 08:57 PM

The yellow one looks male to me with the gonopodium.
I agree, he looks ill. How much and what have you been feeding? Water parameters?

ellespencer 05-12-2012 05:18 AM

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Originally Posted by txO4 (Post 1077673)
The yellow one looks male to me with the gonopodium.
I agree, he looks ill. How much and what have you been feeding? Water parameters?

i feed them natural tropical fish flake 3-4 times a day, just a pinch and they have defrosted bloodworm maybe once twice a week. the water is fine i checked the amonia and nitrate the other day and they were both 0mg. none of the other fish look like this and this one was bloated slightly when i got it from the shop and seemed to be getting worse so it was already ill. can my other fish catch it and should i take it out the tank?

txO4 05-12-2012 05:37 AM

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Originally Posted by ellespencer (Post 1078120)
i feed them natural tropical fish flake 3-4 times a day, just a pinch and they have defrosted bloodworm maybe once twice a week. the water is fine i checked the amonia and nitrate the other day and they were both 0mg. none of the other fish look like this and this one was bloated slightly when i got it from the shop and seemed to be getting worse so it was already ill. can my other fish catch it and should i take it out the tank?

I am pretty sure your fish obtained the illness 'dropsy' from your LFS. It is caused by improper diet, temperature fluctuation, bad water conditions and overcrowding, as well as no real known cause is some instances. It can also be accompanied by Pop-Eye, which your fish may have based from your 3rd pic they look kind of swollen.
It's a dangerous buildup of internal pressure, that can be caused from parasites among other things.
I would start treating with some meds and quarantine him from your other fish. Although, meds aren't a sure fire cure, as dropsy is a very tough disease for a fish to survive.

ellespencer 05-12-2012 06:39 AM

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Originally Posted by txO4 (Post 1078127)
I am pretty sure your fish obtained the illness 'dropsy' from your LFS. It is caused by improper diet, temperature fluctuation, bad water conditions and overcrowding, as well as no real known cause is some instances. It can also be accompanied by Pop-Eye, which your fish may have based from your 3rd pic they look kind of swollen.
It's a dangerous buildup of internal pressure, that can be caused from parasites among other things.
I would start treating with some meds and quarantine him from your other fish. Although, meds aren't a sure fire cure, as dropsy is a very tough disease for a fish to survive.

thankyou for your help i will get some meds today, will this disease be painful for the fish?

txO4 05-12-2012 07:27 AM

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Originally Posted by ellespencer (Post 1078138)
thankyou for your help i will get some meds today, will this disease be painful for the fish?

I'm not really sure if fish can feel 'pain' like we do, but they would probably feel very uncomfortable at the least. I've heard dropsy is one of the more serious diseases, but I've had the fortune to keep it out of my tanks (knock on wood). I've heard of using Epsom salt to help expel fluid buildup along with raising the temp a few degrees. But not to use meds during this method. If nothing else, a lot of aquarists say to just put the fish out of it's misery because it is such a difficult illness to rid. Not the thing you want to hear because if you are like me, and love your every fish in every tank, it's too hard to give up on the little guys :-(

At least wait for some more opinions before doing anything drastic :)

mattfishgeek 05-12-2012 03:03 PM

definatley dropsy. Not a nice disease at all, and to be honest in my experience when they look like yours does they have gone past treatment. hope all goes well, let us know

mattfishgeek 05-12-2012 03:06 PM

and just to let you know thats a platy lol. A bumblbee platy by the looks of him. Its a male

Misomie 05-13-2012 10:11 PM

Yeah, my fish caught dropsy (after a swap over to a new tank, I think they caught it because they got out of the bag before they were fully acclimated) and it destroyed my entire Tiger barb school. My Rosy Barb caught it also but the treatment worked on him and prevented anyone else from getting it. :/ It's a nasty disease but can be treated early on so I'd start treating your other fish just in case.


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