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Old 08-02-2010, 12:05 PM   #71
 
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I read that the Mosquito fish is really hardy in ponds also. I read that White cloud minnows are low temp. fish also but I do not know if freezing temps. will be ok for them. You might have to look on-line. Another really pretty fish for ponds are Paradise fish they sort of look like Betta's. Freezing temps might not be good for them and they would need to come out in the fall or winter I think.
I'd pull Paradise Fish and White Clouds in when overnight temps started going below 50.
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Old 08-03-2010, 08:58 AM   #72
 
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mosquito fish are aggressive and invasive and spend more time eating tadpoles and fish fry than eating mosquito larva. Dont recromend them.
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Old 08-03-2010, 09:33 AM   #73
 
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mosquito fish are aggressive and invasive and spend more time eating tadpoles and fish fry than eating mosquito larva. Dont recromend them.
Aggressive, invasive, and fun. They make a great topper for an outdoor tank with bottom dwelling cichlids. I have them in the 120 I set up outside with the firemouths on the bottom. Makes sure that only the strongest, fastest fry survive.

Just don't let them get into your local waterways. If you can't keep them, give them to someone who can or euthanize them.
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Old 08-04-2010, 04:56 PM   #74
 
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they are also good for those guppy ecosystem projects as they natrually eat algea unlike guppys.

A good fish will be the rosy red or fathead minnow.

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Old 08-09-2010, 06:33 AM   #75
 
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This topic has been getting much criticism on my local forum.

You can check out the topic here:

http://www.tropicalaquarium.co.za/showthread.php?t=4543

I am not against this method of keeping fish but others seem to think it's the worst setup ever....

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Old 08-10-2010, 10:39 AM   #76
 
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Well, I like how my unfiltered tub pond turned out. My 2 female, 1 male ender in the pond are having a bunch of babies and they could not be happier. My water is cyrstal clear with the exception of some hair algae that I have to clean out once in awhile. I think it is because of getting to much sun and my water poppy is not growing as fast to shade the pond. The water lettuce is multiplying and the water hyachin is doing good so is my Hornwort plant. I only keep 3 adult fish in the pond at all times and rehome the excess babies once they get bigger every month. This way the pond does not get overcrowded.I have many snails in the pond also.

Make sure they are not Ramshorn snails as they will eat your pond plants. I put some Assassin snails in my pond to control some of the excess pond snails that hitch hiked on some of my pond plants.I also noticed some people had problems with putting a algae control chemical in the pond. The water plants did not do well after this type of treatment and all the snails died because of the copper in the product. Once the plants start growing and filling in the excess algae will go away. You can always get some shade cloth and use that on one side to shade it from the heat or move it if you have rollers on the bottom so that it is not in the blazing sun all day on really hot days I would keep it in a shaded area all day if it can be moved or use an umbrella to shade it if it can not be moved.

I think a spring/ summer unfiltered pond is a good idea as the fish breed better in these conditons. I think some people just get discouraged as it takes time to balance this type of pond and if they do not see results right away they hate the pond. You can't please everyone is what I say.Some people like it and some people hate it.
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Old 08-12-2010, 10:27 AM   #77
 
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I decided to bring my fish inside yesterday, because I would rather take them out early than, one day it gets really cold and they all die. All of the fish are bigger and more colorful. I have sooooo many guppy fry. My cories spawned through out the summer, but I did not see any fry :( I will have to attempt to breed them in the tank. All of the fish have gorgeous vibrant colors. I will definitely put them in the pond next year. However, next year I will do a few things differently. 1- I will start a daphnia culture in the pond first. 2- I will almost completely cover the top in floating plants and shade, because the water in the pond was green this year and you couldn't see the fish unless they came to the surface. 3- I may add a pump to help circulate the water. 4- I won't put in any submerged plants such as hornwort because when they die they make a big mess and they also collect a lot of dirt and detrius.
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Old 08-12-2010, 11:05 AM   #78
 
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That's a great idea. I did have a pump that circulated the water that I put charcoal in and a pad. I took it out but might add it next year. I might go ahead and put my water fountain back in as long as I do not have water lettuce or water hyacinth inside as these do not do well if water splashes on the leaves.

Your Cory frys might have been eaten by the guppies. I noticed that my male endler is so much brighter in color also. I will take mine out in September sometime as I notice baby fry and want them to grow a bit more. I will put the 2 female endlers in my 55 gal. community tank and the male endler with my other male endlers over the fall/winter. If the females have more babies they will be eaten by my fish in my community tank as I can not keep them all.

My water in my tub pond is clear I can see all the way to the bottom. But mine is only a 15 gal. plant tub. I do have a problem with hair algae though. I think next year I will put alot of floating water plants to keep it better shaded to avoid the hair algae so adding more plants is a good idea put they will have to be trimmed back in my small tub pond.

I noticed you live in Canada so that's a good idea to take them out early. The weather here in San Diego is mild even in the winter time. Someone at my fish club told me that I should leave a couple of fish in the pond to see if they make it over the winter or not. I know that mollies ,Swordtails or platies do well in my area as some people have outside ponds that have them and do not take them out during the fall/winter time. Maybe I could put some of my Bumblebee platy babies inside that don't make the cut as I'm only keeping the ones with the masked black heads and my Orca colored Blk. with slight white marking.

Here's a picture of my Bumblebee platies and my Orca fry. Oh I got more fry from my platies yesterday most were solid yellow into the 55. gal. tank for food but I found 2 Orca colored ones.
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Old 08-13-2010, 05:43 PM   #79
 
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PLEASE RESIZE IMAGES BEFORE POSTING. THIS THREAD IS BECOMING PIC HEAVY.

So spring is around the corner where I live and I'm picking up my 1000L flowbin tomorrow. Planning to put my hybrid Orandas and Comets in and some other fish.

(I think we should start a list of fish capable of living and breeding in these conditions.)

I'm thinking about adding some fancy tailed guppies to permanently breed in there. I just might add Platies instead as they breed more willingly.

Getting some water hycynth? if that is the correct spelling. It will provide much needed hiding spots for goldfish and other fry. If I am lucky enough, both my female Orandas will spawn. I do want more goldfish for this setup though. 1000L with 6, 2,5inch goldfish.....very spacey... I will probably get more when I see it fitting.

I'm just concerned about guppies losing their strain and reverting to wild colors. Platies will keep their strain for a long time whereas mollies will revert to black.

Are there other fish besides livebearers that could live happily in these setups?
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Old 08-13-2010, 06:41 PM   #80
 
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PLEASE RESIZE IMAGES BEFORE POSTING. THIS THREAD IS BECOMING PIC HEAVY.

So spring is around the corner where I live and I'm picking up my 1000L flowbin tomorrow. Planning to put my hybrid Orandas and Comets in and some other fish.

(I think we should start a list of fish capable of living and breeding in these conditions.)

I'm thinking about adding some fancy tailed guppies to permanently breed in there. I just might add Platies instead as they breed more willingly.

Getting some water hycynth? if that is the correct spelling. It will provide much needed hiding spots for goldfish and other fry. If I am lucky enough, both my female Orandas will spawn. I do want more goldfish for this setup though. 1000L with 6, 2,5inch goldfish.....very spacey... I will probably get more when I see it fitting.

I'm just concerned about guppies losing their strain and reverting to wild colors. Platies will keep their strain for a long time whereas mollies will revert to black.

Are there other fish besides livebearers that could live happily in these setups?
I would also like to know what fish can live in the setup... Hell, I've been inspired by this topic to attempt one meself.
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