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Old 06-20-2010, 12:32 AM   #51
 
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You can always cover it 1/2 way with a shade cloth and hold that in place with rocks. I'm guessing it is in full sun. I know that the water hyacynes are good plants to get the water qty good. Is there any way you can put an umbrella up near the pond for added shade on really hot days so the algae does not grow crazy? I put some platies in my tank into the tub pond once the water warmed up some and they were fine. I since moved then into the house tank because my friend gave me 5 female endlers. The tub pond dipped to under 60 degrees in the night and they were fine. I did not even feed them so I think they ate the bugs and algae in the pond. They do carry some pond products that control algae and is safe for fish. But if you use this you might have to feed your fish every few days. I heard that Barley of sometype controls algae in ponds. Do a Google on controling algae in ponds.

Do not put the Java fern in the pond. They are low light plants and will not do good and it will get choked by the algae.

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Old 06-20-2010, 12:16 PM   #52
 
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I currently have a 30 gallon above ground mini pond. It has 1 Betta, a papyrus, a water hyacinth, some pothos floating, and a purple water pickerel. So far the betta has avoided all the racoons in my area by hiding under the papyrus (it is elevated in the pond and weighs about 40 pounds). The pond is painted black so it stays about 83-84 degrees during the day, dropping to about 78-80 degrees at night. He eats all the mosquitoes and looks pretty great for a 2 dollar petsmart fish. Setting up another mini-pond with some corkscrew rush and a crowntail betta soon.

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Old 06-20-2010, 01:00 PM   #53
 
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It has been a few weeks since I set up the pond and the fish are doing great! I am now seeing a lot of guppy fry. Like A LOT! Also, since I've added the hornwort and the water hyacinthes, the water has been really clearing up. I wasn't sure if my cories were okay for the longest time because they are bottom dwellers so they stayed around the bottom where I coudn't see them, but now that the water is clearer, when they swim past the sunnier spots you can see them. There has also been a huge rise in the pond snail population. Before, there were only a few that I could see, but now there are tons of tiny ones that eat the algae pretty quickly and the leaves and grass that falls into the pond too! They seem to multiply and they are very beneficial to the pond. They leave the pond plants alone too.

Also, in my 29 gallon, I have a breeder pair of kribensis. They are gorgeous but very protective of their babies and they killed a few fish. Currently they aren't breeding because I took out all possible caves. Since, I want them to breed and I also want to maintain a peaceful community, I've decided to put them in another tub pond outside. I was thinking like more of a planter style. So I would buy a plant pot and turn it into a breeding tub pond for my kribs. I would let them breed in there during the summer and in the winter I could add them back to the community since they are actually very peaceful when not breeding.
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Old 06-20-2010, 04:53 PM   #54
 
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You can always cover it 1/2 way with a shade cloth and hold that in place with rocks. I'm guessing it is in full sun. I know that the water hyacynes are good plants to get the water qty good. Is there any way you can put an umbrella up near the pond for added shade on really hot days so the algae does not grow crazy? I put some platies in my tank into the tub pond once the water warmed up some and they were fine. I since moved then into the house tank because my friend gave me 5 female endlers. The tub pond dipped to under 60 degrees in the night and they were fine. I did not even feed them so I think they ate the bugs and algae in the pond. They do carry some pond products that control algae and is safe for fish. But if you use this you might have to feed your fish every few days. I heard that Barley of sometype controls algae in ponds. Do a Google on controling algae in ponds.

Do not put the Java fern in the pond. They are low light plants and will not do good and it will get choked by the algae.
Well it gets sun for a good 7-8+ hours a day at least, but towards the afternoon a trellis that's right next to it starts to shade it. I think I'll go down and see what kinds of plants I could throw in as well, I was originally going to get some rushes and things to grow in there but thought the lily alone would cover most of the surface. I just figured out the worms though. The soil I planted the lily with was from my garden, so the worms at the start only must have been from the soil and were trying to escape I guess.
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Old 06-20-2010, 07:15 PM   #55
 
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I just thought of something have you ever thought of putting plants in the ground next to the pond. Like sometype of iris and maybe get a big rock about the size of a ball next to some plants. That would add to the look of the pond and provide some shade.If not in the ground maybe in nice pots in the back of the pond you have.l
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Old 06-21-2010, 08:53 PM   #56
 
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I find hosta are very good plants to plant around the pond as when they get bigger, they cover the siding of the pond, so it looks more natural and their big leaves can provide a bit of shade around the edges of the pond.
In my previous pictures, you can see some small hostas around the pond, for those of you who don't know what a hosta is, here is a link:
http://gardenersgreenthumb.files.wor...9/03/hosta.jpg
there are many variations of hostats and different colours. they look really good and you can find them at any garden store for pretty cheap.
Also, they require to be in the shade for most of the time.
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Old 07-06-2010, 05:49 PM   #57
 
I figured I'd try to make my pond filtered. I just put a bunch of rocks in the water course thing I have, so that while the water is running down the course it flows over and past a bunch of the rocks. I figured since it has running water and is exposed to oxygen it should work, what's everyone think? Don't have a camera so can't get a picture.
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Old 07-07-2010, 09:12 AM   #58
 
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Hey guys!

I hear that this post has been getting a lot of views lately.

I also heard that this idea was published in the newsletter! How cool is that?

I haven't had a chance to see the newsletter but hopefully we got some credit for this idea.

I had to give my mollies away after I found over 50 of them + new fry upon returning home after 4 months. This was too many for me to handle.

I was planning on getting guppies to put in my new pond. I spoke to a guy who has a lab and designs guppies!! I really got hooked on this idea of designing (selective breeding) a guppy.

I just cant believe that I made history along with eileen!

If you need help setting up or choosing a location for your unfiltered tub pond, give us a shout!

Kind Regards

TM

Edit: @ Ulyaoth

Hi there! I suggest you get coarse sand, gravel , pebbles along with the rocks. Rocks alone wont give you sufficient filtration. These mediums will have to be boiled once a month to remove all the impurities and fish waste captured.

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Old 07-07-2010, 11:40 AM   #59
 
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It's nice that this Thread is getting noticed. I still have not posted my pictures on U-Tube yet. I recently changed out my water iris as I did not like it. I was able to get a Dwarf Pyrus plant. I got 3 plants out of it by repotting the other 2. I have them on craigslist . I also was able to pick up a Water Poppy. It sort of looks like a Lily plant but does not have as big leaves. This is a fast grower and I was able to make several plants from this. I sold a few on craigslist. The other plants will go up for sale at a auction.

I noticed that my Water Hyaciths was not doing well with my Water Lettuce so I took out my small water fountain after reading on-line that the Water Lettuce does not like water splashed on them. I went out and bought a bigger Water Hyacith to put in. Water Lettuce and Water Hyaciths are the top plants to filter out Nitrates,Nitrites, Ammonia in the water so I had to have these in my pond for this purpose. Since my tub pond is small I have to thin in out often.

Update on my 15 gal. unfiltered tub Fish:

On my thread I posted at the beginning. I lost my Pond Platies. They either jumped out or a bird got them as I found them dryed up nest to my pond. My friend gave me 5 Black Bar Endler females. I resently rehomed 3 of the 5. When I cleaned out my tub pond last weekend of excess snails hitch hikers on plants I got. I replaced 50%of the water with treated water and noticed baby fish. I fished out 12. Since I was not feeding them some might of got eaten by the Female endlers. Since cleaning the water I feed them tropical flakes in the pond once in awhile. They are in the pond to control Mosquitos and eat dead smaller bugs that land inside or algae. I wanted to keep all male endlers in a small 2.5 gal. Bowfront tank I have next to my computer. I got 5 males the other 7 were female and I rehomed them free on craigslist.

I went to my local aquarium shop and saw these new type of Royal Endlers. They only carry males. I bought 1 to put in with my 2 female Black Bar Endlers. Most of the endlers in this store are $3.99 each. I payed $6.99 for the 1 Royal Endler.It was expensive as this is a new strain. I have not been able to find anything on-line about them or pictures. If I can catch him I will take him out to take a picture sometime later. I'm hoping to get some really nice colored endlers form the Black Bar females and the Royal together. I will take the fish out during the fall and only keep a few fish inside til next spring.Rehome or give away the excess fish that they have in the pond during the summer time.

Here are some new pictures of some plants I got:
1- New Water poppy
2- Dwarf Pyrus
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Old 07-08-2010, 04:39 PM   #60
 
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Picture of my Royal Endler + Updated pond pic.

Here are some pictures I took today. I had to fish out 7 more babies to give someone and repot some of my water poppies. I thought it was a good time to take out my Royal Ender Male to take a picture. The pond had 2 Black Bar Endlers and 1 Royal Endler Male. By the end of summer who knows how many fish will be in that pond.

Pic.#1 Royal Endler Male
Pic.#2 Updated unfiltered tub pond with new plants and Endlers inside
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