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Sad circumstances, but a lovely wee dog.

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Sad circumstances, but a lovely wee dog.
Old 01-12-2008, 01:41 PM   #21
 
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Thanks for the info! :D

I'm also into dogs, but know very little about the terrier group. The Yorkshire is extremely popular here where I live. There are some Westies and Scotch terriers, Jack Russel's are 'in fashion', we even have one Kerry blue neighbour, but Airedales unfortunately have become extremely rare. They are wonderful dogs!

By the way which group does the Dalmatian belong according to your classification? I know some classify it as a Utility dog. I can make my dog pull small amount of loads in winter when we have snow. last year she could still pull my daughter.

As to your lovely dog, I thought it might be purebred Australian terrier. But any terrier is 'pure' terrier - it's a personality!
Dalmatins are part of the utility group. I'm pretty sure these groups are standard across the world, but perhaps not. I've heard of some people classing a yorkshire Terrier in the Terrier group rather than the Toy group though that happens in this country as well so it may just be that they are mistaken rather than the grouping actually being different. In Europe and America they are toy dogs.

She is much too large and long in the body/face to be an Australian Terrier, but I do see the resemblance. Initially she was got from the dog home as a puppy. Her mother had become pregnant unexpectedly and they didn't want the pups, so chances are high that there's nothing too exotic in her. Sadly it if often the case (though by all means not always) that many of the expensive pure-breds are not allowed to roam and become pregnant/get a dog pregnant whereas mongrels and cross breeds are. It's not very often you see a stray Poodle, or Stray Afghan Hound, whereas you see plenty stray mongrels roaming about.

It would be nice to know her heritage, from an interest point of view only, but hen it comes down to it I don't really care. As long as she's happy and healthy I couldn't care less who her parents are. :)
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Old 01-12-2008, 01:54 PM   #22
 
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Thanks again!

The classification are different in different parts of the world, but the British seem to be logical. According to the Russian class. dals are supposed to be "Decorative dogs". They may be decorative alright, but I wouldn't classify dogs like that. To me they may all be decorative (mongrels including) if well cared of and exercised.

I was not aware of the fact that Yorkshire do not belong to the terrier group. They are ultimate terriers! But of course, they are delicate and - 'decorative' , hence the logical placement into the toy group.

I cannot seem to understand the difference between the Work and the Utility group. It could be that Work dogs were designed for some particular kind of work...

And I completely agree - the main thing for any dog is to be healthy and to have a reasonable, understanding owner to make it also happy :D
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Old 01-12-2008, 02:01 PM   #23
 
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Here's another few of her:


Lisa and Bonnie posing for the camera:




Lisa asleep on the back of my couch:

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Old 01-12-2008, 02:05 PM   #24
 
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Thanks again!

The classification are different in different parts of the world, but the British seem to be logical. According to the Russian class. dals are supposed to be "Decorative dogs". They may be decorative alright, but I wouldn't classify dogs like that. To me they may all be decorative (mongrels including) if well cared of and exercised.

I was not aware of the fact that Yorkshire do not belong to the terrier group. They are ultimate terriers! But of course, they are delicate and - 'decorative' , hence the logical placement into the toy group.

I cannot seem to understand the difference between the Work and the Utility group. It could be that Work dogs were designed for some particular kind of work...

And I completely agree - the main thing for any dog is to be healthy and to have a reasonable, understanding owner to make it also happy :D
No problem. :)

Here is the kennel club's definition of the Working and utility group.

Working: Over the centuries these dogs were selectively bred to become guards and search and rescue dogs. Arguably, the working group consists of some of the most heroic canines in the world, aiding humans in many walks of like, including the Boxer, Great Dane and St Bernard. This group consists of the real specialists in their field who excel in their line of work.

Utility: This group consists of miscellaneous breeds of dog mainly of a non-sporting origin, including the Bulldog, Dalmatian, Japanese Akita and Poodle.

The name "Utility" basically means fitness for a purpose and this group consists of an extremely mixed and varied bunch, most breeds having been selectively bred to perform a specific function not included in the sporting and working categories. Some of the breeds listed in the group are the oldest documented breeds of dog in the world.

Hope this helps. :)
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Old 01-13-2008, 04:08 AM   #25
 
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Thanks, it helped perfectly. That's what I have suspected.

The utility is a group for odds and ends in the dogs' world. The Dalmatian used to have different professions in the past, but excelled only later - in running with carriages. As to the bulldog - it used to be a sporting dog, and used to look as one, but it has been out of job and its appearance has changed, but the poodle is a very ancient breed. It could be a hunting dog at the beginning.

The pictures are lovely! I see Lisa is friendly with Bonnie.
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Old 01-13-2008, 06:04 AM   #26
 
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Lovely pictures Julie.. they're both so cute!!
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Old 01-13-2008, 06:09 AM   #27
 
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they are so sweet,i really like the sofa shot,
how cute is that.
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Old 01-13-2008, 08:03 AM   #28
 
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Thanks, it helped perfectly. That's what I have suspected.

The utility is a group for odds and ends in the dogs' world. The Dalmatian used to have different professions in the past, but excelled only later - in running with carriages. As to the bulldog - it used to be a sporting dog, and used to look as one, but it has been out of job and its appearance has changed, but the poodle is a very ancient breed. It could be a hunting dog at the beginning.

The pictures are lovely! I see Lisa is friendly with Bonnie.
Yep, poodles were originally bred in Germany, not France which many suspect, and thir "pom poms" were to keep vital organs and joints warm because they were bred originally as hunting dogs: for retrieving ducks etc from the water after the hunter had shot them and thier pom poms kept certain parts warm like I said, without weighing the dog down, or leaving it completely dripping wet when it came out.

the dalmation and bulldog used to have roles as well, like you say, but it seems that the working/hound/gundig groups only include dogs that are still ued as such. I persoally find it very sad how the bulldog has evolved. so many helth issues are now associated with the breed because of their weight, short snout etc. I guess they are the canine equivalent of the baloon molly perhaps?

Kate, Willow, thanks very much for the kind comments. It's lovely to hear that I'm not the only one who thinks they're the sweetest things out, LOL!
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Old 01-13-2008, 09:48 AM   #29
 
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That's true about the bulldog! And very interesting about the poodle! That is one of the oldest hunting dogs in Europe!

My friend has a great dane. Their dimension have also been manipulated with, hence the health issues, but not that bad. The bulldog could also be equivalent to a fancy goldfish. But they are also good people, no matter what. I knew a bulldog who was a champion in agility!

We have just come back from a forest walk with our great dane friend, and the dogs are happy. I can't take my aquarium friends for a walk!
One of the reasons for toy group popularity is the fact that they can be taken anywhere. People even take them to the shops inside to which I absolutely have no objections. However, some would make certain remarks about it. Is it allowed to take dogs to the beach/coastline where you live?
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Old 01-13-2008, 12:15 PM   #30
 
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The only dogs allowd in shops are guide dogs but I think they're allowed on beaches, I'm not sure. In Spain dogs weren't allowed on any of the beaches, but there were so many tourists there it's no wonder. Unfortunately people can't always be trusted to pick up after their dogs.
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